Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 10/19/17


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Supernatural (Thursday nights, 8pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

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I don’t currently have cable (though I do have reliable access to the show the next day), so I won’t be doing my live recaps until Friday at 8pm. My live recap and review for the season premiere are up.

Season 13 titles so far: “Lost and Found” (13.01), synopsis and photos, promo, preview, sneak peeks, and Shaving People, Punting Things, as well as live recap and review; “The Rising Son” (13.02) synopsis and photos and promo; “Patience” (the first spinoff set-up episode) (13.03) synopsis; “The Big Empty” (13.04) synopsis; “Advanced Thanatology” (13.05); “Tombstone” (13.06); “War of the Worlds” (13.07); “The Scorpion and the Frog” (13.08); “The Bad Place” (13.09); Christmas Break; “Wayward Sisters” (13.10, backdoor pilot for the spinoff); “The Midnight Train” (13.11); “Various and Sundry Villains” (13.12); “Breakdown” (13.13); “Devil’s Bargain” (13.14); “Only the Best Intentions” (13.15); “ScoobyNatural” (13.16, cartoon episode, appears in March).

Kittens! Kittens everywhere! This/last week’s Entertainment Weekly celebrates the show with multiple Halloween-themed covers, including one of Jensen Ackles with a super-cute black kitten and behind-the-scenes photos sure to warm the heart and chill the blood.

The shoot also included some interviews with Jared Padalecki (about Sam’s bonding with Jack) and Jensen Ackles (who talks about Dean’s “hopeless road” storyline in more detail), as well as video and spoilers (including the announced “return” of a Kevin Tran from alt-SPN and probable return of alt-Bobby, first seen in last season’s finale).

There were also articles about the spin-off and the upcoming Scooby-Doo episode, which confirmed that the Christmas break will occur after 13.09 and that the Scooby-Doo episode will air in March.

Jared Padalecki did an interview on Jimmy Kimmel Live.

The synopsis for “The Big Empty” (13.03) is up:

“The Big Empty” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)

THE LONG WAY HOME – When multiple patients of grief counselor Mia Vallens (guest star Rukiya Bernard) turn up dead, Sam (Jared Padalecki), Dean (Jensen Ackles) and Jack (Alexander Calvert) investigate the mystery surrounding the murders and, each inadvertently, are forced to deal with unresolved grief of their own. John Badham directed the episode written by Meredith Glynn (#1304). Original airdate 11/2/2017.

Mark Pellegrino is now being listed as a series regular and gave an interview about it to Variety. He confirmed that Mary will be around for a while. She and Lucifer will team up to get back to their universe. Lucifer also wants to keep Mary alive in order to trade her to her sons in exchange for Jack.

Warner Bros has announced details about the upcoming Wayward Sisters spin-off. As we already know, it will star Kim Rhodes (Jody Mills) and the rumor that Briana Buckmaster (Donna Hanscum) is in it was confirmed. Also starring will be Kathryn Newton (Claire Novak) and Alex Jones (Katherine Ramdeen), as well as new character Patience Turner (played by Clark Backo). Another new character, Kaia (Yadira Guevar-Prip), has been added to the main cast list. Kaia’s “gift” will be the ability to spirit travel.

The spin-off premise and new characters will be introduced via several episodes in season 13. Patience will be introduced in “Patience” (13.03), which also brings back season one character Missouri Moseley (who is Patience’s estranged grandmother and from whom Patience has inherited her psychic gift). The actual backdoor pilot will be “Wayward Sisters” (13.10).

Season 12 is out on Amazon.

The count for Supernatural calendars for 2018 is now four: a charity calendar called If I Could Tell You: The Women of Supernatural, taking orders now; two large calendars out on July 1 and two mini calendars on September 1.

The show returned reasonably strong in ratings for the season premiere with a 0.7/3 and 2.10 million, which put it third after The Flash and a resurgent Riverdale.


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10 thoughts on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 10/19/17”

  1. I read people complaining about the end of the season ‘use the grenade launcher and reset the bunker’ and I am watching Season 9.2 and Kevin was trapped in the bunker until Dean simply opened the door to the bunker. And ‘reset the bunker’ because he said the phones worked and the doors worked and all was A-OK.

    Sometimes the show ‘does’ use continuity correctly.

  2. EW is advertising some 96p History of Supernatural. Anybody seen it/got it can tell me if it is worth it?

    I wish I had gotten the Jensen/kitten cover but my closest Barnes and Noble said they went on sale Thursday 10am and were out by about 3pm same day. I was hoping all the alternate covers would be on the inside but did not happen.

  3. I am confused: 13.3 is listed as Patience and is listed as The Big Empty. Now I gather Patience in this next Thursday (which makes it 13.3) but is The Big Empty the film ‘shot’ as 13.3 but showing as 13.4?

    They used to shoot Jensen’s directing episodes out of sequence so they were always ‘3’ but also shot first.

    This is a cat question: have you ever had a cat with diabetes? One of my cats does. DECADES ago I had a cat somebody said had ‘cat leukemia’ but I think all the symptoms were for diabetes (tired, loss of fur, loss of appetite). Do you know anything about this?

    1. 13.03 is Patience. If you look at the latest spoilers column from yesterday, there’s a synopsis up.

      The symptoms sound like diabetes. Cat leukemia and FIV are a thing, but they are different. One is cancer and one is like HIV (but not transmittable to humans).

      1. I talked to the vet today. She says, of course she can’t know but that cat leukemia is a disease not passed to humans. But I have to tell you the earlier cat had the exact same symptoms as my diabetic kitty.

        Watched The Exorcist and boy that is intense. John Cho has got an imaginary daughter.

        1. There are tests for both, so you ought to be able to determine what’s going on with your cat.

          Still a couple of episodes behind on The Exorcist. I guess it will be three after tonight.

          1. I am just so scared what I am doing is killing him. He is ‘much’ better but he is still not well. And now I worry that every time he falls asleep he is going into a coma.

            Sorry to be a downer. Bad couple of days where kitty is concerned.

            1. Awww. I understand. It’s hard when they’re sick and you don’t know why, but the vet can help you figure it out.

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