The Official Supernatural: “Atomic Monsters” (15.04) Live Recap Thread

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Recap: It’s a full moon over the Bunker, from which echoes gunfire. Inside, it’s down to emergency lighting and a man in a black suit is thrown into a wall at the T-junction of a corridor. His attacker, in stuttering stop-go slo-mo, comes into view. It’s Dean, bearded and looking even more like a survivalist than ever. Dean shoots the man, who then lights up from inside with dying demon light. Seems Dean and his Hunters have figured out how to make demon-killing bullets.

Dean kills some more demons (including multiples) in major badass fashion, steps over a bunch of dead comrades and demons, encounters a living comrade, and ends up in a room with another dying comrade. This one is Benny, but Benny appears to be … human? And beardless. Despite Dean’s reassurances that he will be fine, Benny knows the score. He says, “See you on the other side, brother,” and dies. Upset, Dean grabs a still-alive demon in the room and demands to know where “he” is. The demon tries it on with the snark, instead. Bad call. Dean shoots him in the head, lighting him up like a pinball machine.

Dean comes out into the library/map room to find Sam, all hopped up on demon blood and now superduperduper powerful (and even more irritating than last we saw this permutation of him in season four). Dean tries to talk Sam down as another Hunter tries to sneak up on Sam. But Sam senses the Hunter (even though this was not a talent any psykid ever had) and snaps his neck. Then, he snaps Dean’s and looks smug about it.

The scene jumbles and Sam wakes up in the Bunker. It turns out this was a nightmare (a longer version of the flash he had a couple of episodes ago when Castiel tried to heal his Chuck wound). He’s pretty upset about it.

Cue title cards.

Cut to Dean in the kitchen, quietly eating bacon (by this, I mean that his body language is very still and not just that he isn’t saying anything). Sam comes in, still at loose ends about his dream, but when Dean asks him if he’s okay, Sam brushes it off as just still being at loose ends about Rowena. Yep. He lies to Dean. I’m shocked, too.

Dean suggests Sam eat something, but Sam turns his nose up at Dean’s bacon, even when Dean tells him it’s the “veggie bacon you been asking for.” Okay, first of all, since when is Sam a vegetarian (some LOL!canon from episode writer Davy Perez there)? Second of all, Sam is a grown-ass man in his thirties. If he wants some “veggie bacon” to put in the fridge in Dean’s “Meat Man” kitchen, he can go do his own damned grocery shopping. Jesus, this show fails miserably at propping Sam up, sometimes, and just makes him look like a spoiled child.

On top of this, Dean has to try to buck Sam up, even as he confirms in the dialogue that Sam has been holing up in his room for days, letting Dean haul all the weight. Thanks, Sam.

Dean pulls up a hunt he’s researched and talks a reluctant Sam into going along, instead of Dean handling it himself or going with another Hunter. It’s a story in the Des Moines Herald, about a rash of cattle mutilations and one pretty blonde cheerleader who was “ripped to pieces,” in Beaverdale, Iowa. He also pranks Sam by getting him to eat the “veggie bacon” (yes, it’s really the real thing). The obvious intent is to cheer, or at least irritate, Sam out of his depressive navel-gazing. I mean, hey, it worked in season two.

In front of Beaverdale High School (in that annoying broad daylight that has become the hallmark of this final season), Sam is interviewing the principal, posing as an FBI agent in a suit. She tells him the victim, Susie, was pleasant and popular, involved with everything, with lots of friends and no enemies. When Sam asks about close friends, the principal directs him to a group led by a girl named “Veronica.” Yes, she really does. And really, Perez? It should have been “Heather.”

A middle-aged couple shows up, parents of a male student. The mother (a blonde – I swear they’re all blonde in this episode except for Veronica) is hot for the prayer service to be done and over with so they can get to the important stuff – the lacrosse game where her son is due to impress a visiting talent scout. Both the principal and Sam call Helicopter Mom out on her insensitivity, but that somehow doesn’t quite persuade her to stop being a complete twat. After the parents leave, the principal cynically comments that many of the parents at the high school are like HM.

Sam returns to the Impala, where Dean (also suited up) is eating a bag of chips. Dean’s time has been most productively spent at the morgue. He found a vampire fang and there were no defensive wounds on the victim, indicating she knew whoever killed her. When Sam points out that vampires don’t normally rip apart their victims, Dean says, “Apparently, this one does.”

We’re ten minutes in and all that’s really left to do is figure out who’s the vamp. We get a clue as a mascot in a Beaver suit rides by on a scooter. Dean smiles and comments that this is “awesome.”

Later that night, another blonde cheerleader is heading out to her car after practice, complaining about how “fake” Veronica is in her grief. She is then attacked, mid-scream, by something unseen.

The next day, the Brothers drive out to the woods, to the site where Susie’s body was found. The first thing they notice is that there is hardly any blood – the body was dumped. This is not the original kill site.

After Dean comments that the police are “freaked” by the case, Sam starts whinging about how people in the town are oblivious civilians, that Hunters like the Winchesters have to “carry the weight” of the truth about the world. Right away, Dean pulls out his flask of whiskey and starts drinking. Yeah, I’m hittin’ the hard nog just to get through Sam’s little rant, myself.

Sam gets a call from the principal about the kidnapped girl.

Cut to a guy putting his kids in the car to go camping. Out comes his wife with some motion sickness pills for one of the kids when they ride in a boat. It’s Becky Rosen, y’all, whom we have not seen since season seven. She seems happy in her life, but looking forward to having the house to herself for a few days while her family is off camping.

As the car drives away, Chuck appears on the other side of the street, waving creepily like Pennywise the Clown. Horrified, Becky starts to scamper back into the house, but Chuck runs after her and begs her to let him come in and talk. Rather reluctantly, she lets him in.

In the principal’s office, the principal is filling the Brothers in on the kidnapping of the second cheerleader, whose name is “Tori Taylor” (of course it is). Upon hearing that Tori is also a cheerleader, Dean comments that “someone has a fetish.” This gets the principal’s dander up because criminal profiling isn’t a thing in the SPNverse, anymore, I guess.

Back at Becky’s, Chuck notices a bunch of figures and such that seem related to the Winchester’s story (there are a lot of nice little visual Easter Eggs in this storyline thanks to Ackles’ direction, including a fabulous poster for “A Very Supernatural Christmas” and Funko Pop figurines of Sam, Dean and Castiel). Becky calls them her maquettes. She says that she is the “most successful” creator of “unofficial Supernatural merchandise” in the U.S. and possibly even the world.

She says she’s even continued writing her own fanfic (which Chuck disparages at every opportunity throughout the episode) of the Brothers doing ordinary things like laundry and talking. Chuck doesn’t think that’s very exciting, even after Becky tries to defend it as what fans “really” want to see instead of action, horror and drama.

Becky expresses regret for kidnapping and drugging Sam in “Season Seven, Time for a Wedding!” and says that she got a lot of therapy after that. She said she finally realized that she wasn’t in love with the real Sam, but his character. Somehow … that doesn’t sound better. It seems to diminish Sam, somehow, and make him not seem as good as the fantasy.

Anyhoo, Becky has a pretty good sideline business in her fan figurines and she wants to get back to it because she’s behind in her orders. So, she tells Chuck to get to the point or she’ll kick him out. Chuck admits that he “had a falling out” with Sam and Dean, leaving him now “low on resources,” and that when he went to his sister for help, she blew him off. Becky easily sees through this using of her as his last best resort tactic from him and that he wants her to “fluff” him. But she’s not interested. She has a good life and “I don’t need you.”

Chuck whines that that’s the problem. “No one” needs him and “I kinda hate me right now … I don’t know what I’m doing. I feel so lost.” When Becky, now feeling a bit sorry for him, asks him what makes him feel better, he says that “writing” and “creating” do (uh-oh), so she encourages him to do that.

On a stone picnic bench in front of the school, Dean is talking to the mascot, whose name is Toby. Dean is also still eating.

Sam walks up, acting skeptical about Dean befriending the mascot (yeah, Sam’s early-seasons social snobbery is on full display this week). Dean points out that Toby has a full scholarship to Iowa University and is very observant: “He knows a lot about cheerleaders. In a mostly non-creepy sort of way.”

Dean shares a valuable bit of information about the school hierarchy that Toby shared with him – Susie was the Alpha female among the cheerleaders, Tory her second-in-command. Who takes charge now they’re gone? Veronica, of course.

At that moment, Veronica is running the Susie shrine in the gym and talking to a young jock. His name is Billy and it turns out he was Susie’s boyfriend. Veronica puts the heavy moves on him, but Billy’s mom interrupts them. And guess who she is? That’s right. It’s HM.

After Billy leaves with HM, Veronica goes to the podium and starts practicing her eulogy for Susie in a totally fake way. The Brothers enter and Dean alerts her to their presence by sarcastically clapping at her delivery. But as they gear up to take her down with some dead man’s blood (Sam is hiding the ginormous syringe behind his back), Sam notices that she is wearing braces. She can’t “fang out” with those, so they quickly and quietly leave. Outside, Sam thinks up a new lead when he spots a CCTV camera outside the school. Um … wouldn’t they have thought of that right off?

Back at Billy’s house, HM is bitching at him that she had to come into the school to retrieve him. Boy, is she tightly wound. When Dad comes in, she insists he talk to Billy. Dad just says, “Listen to your mother.”

Billy turns and leaves, instead. Mom is irritated and stalks off, declaring that she needs wine (since it seems she’s an alcoholic on top of being a pretentious twat).

Dad starts washing his hands, which are bloody. The camera strolls out through the pristine hallways of the house to the attached garage. In it, kidnapped teen Tori is tied up, with bloody arms, gagged and blindfolded. She wakes up and starts screaming into her gag.

Back at Becky’s, Chuck discovers to his chagrin that Becky doesn’t have anything stronger than cranapple juice. He says that he used to be able “to see Sam and Dean inside my head … just ripe for the picking.” But he can’t do that, anymore (as he talks, he rubs his wound from the magic bullet). Becky guesses that this is because Chuck has lost his Prophet powers and he hedges a yes. What he’s really admitting to is that he’s no longer omniscient.

She suggests he write a different story with different characters. He says he doesn’t want to. He really likes writing about Sam and Dean. She says that he’s basically just stalling (awww, and all for NaNoWriMo, too). After she lectures him sternly about procrastination, Chuck gets a brainwave. To her dismay, he decides to indulge it then and there by sitting down at her laptop and starting a new story.

Back in Beaverdale, the principal is showing the Brothers the CCTV footage. Tori’s kidnapping is clearly shown, but her assailant is wearing a mask and drags her offscreen. However, immediately afterward, another car roars off past hers in the parking lot and Sam gets the license plate number.

Back at Billy’s, he’s having a fight with his parents, especially his mom. She lays this huge guilt trip on him about all the “sacrifices” they made for him, but her intensity remains unexplained. She just comes off as unhinged, hyper-controlling and annoying as hell. She even gets all weepy and leaves the room. Dad asks him what he wants. Billy angrily says that he doesn’t want “any of this” and never did.

The doorbell rings and it’s the Brothers. As they come in, the girl in the garage starts struggling again. Dad sends Billy upstairs. Sam and Dean accuse Dad of being the vampire, though they initially just accuse him of kidnapping the girls. Tori knocks something down in the garage and Sam goes to investigate, as Dean continues to interrogate Dad, pulling out a machete.

Sam unties the dazed girl, who is attached to a blood bag, and starts to pick her up. But Evil Bitch Mom shows up with a gun and forces them to come back inside the house. Boy, is Dean disappointed when it turns out Sam couldn’t even watch his own back, let alone Dean’s. Though he does ask how the girl is doing. Sam says, “Not good,” as he lays her on the couch.

Dad tries to talk Crazy Mom into letting him take the fall. After all, gunfire would bring down real law enforcement and then things would get ugly.

Back at Becky’s, Becky is reading what Chuck just wrote and is not impressed. She tries to pretend that she likes it, but Chuck sees through her act. She finally admit that the villains are boring and the story is “low stakes … no Classic Rock. Nobody even mentions Cas.” Not his best.

Chuck gets an ugly look on his face: “You want jeopardy? You want danger?” He evicts her from her chair and then starts writing again: “I’ll give you danger.”

The impasse at the ‘rents’ house is fairly brief, since Billy comes back downstairs. Staring at Dad, Dean floats the Brothers’ theory that Dad is the vampire. But Sam then guesses it’s actually Billy.

Billy admits that after he was turned into a vampire (it’s not made clear how or exactly when), he tried to make do with cows (hence the cattle mutilations). But as he was making out with Susie in his truck one night, he lost control. He ended up killing her. Dean then guesses that the parents chopped Susie up and dumped her body in the woods.

Dad starts burbling on about how Dean doesn’t understand their motives because he’s never had a child (oh, so much clueless irony) and Mom is all for murdering the Brothers and burying them out back, “under the peonies.” These two have totally lost the plot.

Fortunately, Billy gets them to stand down and points out that it’s not going to work. He loved Susie and he killed her, and he knows he will kill again: “I’m a monster.”

He tells his parents to take the girl to the hospital, to blame the attack and kidnapping on him. He then tells them he is going to “take a ride” with Sam and Dean. Turning to them, he says, “Isn’t that how this works?”

Cue a montage (to Radio Company’s “Sounds of Someday”) of Tori being carried off to the hospital, while the teary-eyed parents (who really should have been horribly offed) give the police Billy’s photo, and of Dean beheading Billy out in the woods, while a pensive Sam watches.

Back at Becky’s, Chuck has finished and he looks all post-coital about it. Oh, this can’t be good. Becky’s just read the new stuff and she hates it. She thinks it’s “dark … horrible … hopeless.” Chuck is fine with that. His perfect image for his story is of a tombstone with just one name – Winchester – on it.

Becky’s family arrives home in the middle of this. Right before her husband walks in, Becky tells Chuck to leave (because explaining what your creepy ex is doing alone in the house with you, while your husband and kids were off on vacation, would be very awkward). But Chuck, all smiling and satisfied, says he’s fine where he is. As Becky begs “please” in a whisper, in walks her husband. He has just enough time to look confused at Chuck’s presence and cheery, sarcastic wave, before Chuck snaps his fingers and makes him dissolve in dust. The kids are noisily coming in and Chuck snaps them out of existence, too. Becky reacts in visceral horror to the erasures of her family.

Chuck smugly tells her that her family is not “dead, just away.” Then he tells her he’s God. Becky doesn’t believe this at first, but then quickly devolves into anger and then begging for Chuck to “bring them back,” saying “You can’t do this!”

“Oh, Becky,” Chuck says, as he snaps her out of existence, too, “I can do anything. I’m a writer.”

In the final car scene, Sam’s takeaway from the hunt, and Billy’s mom and dad’s shitty parenting, is that he and Dean would have done the same thing for Jack ([facepalm] Oh, Sam, come on). Rather noncommittally, Dean agrees, but says that he wanted to get them out on a hunt so that they could show they still make a difference. Dean insists they’re “free” now Chuck is gone. He mentions Rowena and Mary among their losses, in addition to Jack, but not Castiel. Some fans got chapped about this, but remember that Castiel isn’t dead. And that Sam apparently does not know that Castiel has bailed on them. Therefore, Castiel doesn’t belong on that list of dead (mostly female) allies.

Whiny Sam still manages to make it All About himself, saying he’s not able to let any of his old trauma go. Hell, he still thinks about Jessica. I should have been like “awww,” but to be honest, this whole speech sounded a tad pathetic in a “Don’t use Billy’s ‘rents as moral examples, Sam” kind of way.

Meanwhile, now alone at Becky’s, Chuck is writing more story and sneering evilly, while Sam and Dean dolls bobblehead on the desk next to him, beside a model tree and on top of a devil’s trap.


The episode got a 0.3/2 and dropped to 1.10 million in audience. Kind of a shame for Jensen Ackles’ last episode, though the DVR ratings will probably go up considerably (they’re not out, yet).

The preview and synopsis for the next episode are up.

Review: I … don ‘t know how I feel about this episode. I disliked the script – as in, a whole lot. And it did nothing whatsoever to restore my confidence that the show’s current writers have a clue what they’re doing. But the direction? Well, the direction deserved a better script and in the places where director Jensen Ackles got to do his thing, it worked very well. Also, there was some really good acting.

But boy, that script. Yuck. Also, I have no idea why it’s called “Atomic Monsters.” No one else seems to know, either.

There’s a small scene in the middle that sums up my ambivalence. The Brothers are outside the car in that annoying s15 broad daylight, in suits, talking about the case. This quickly devolves into Sam complaining about how oblivious the civilians on the case are to all the supernatural horror around them. When Dean points out that Sam used to want to be just like them (Dean doesn’t say “social climbing” and “elitist,” but it’s true), Sam’s grousing turns bitter and he mopes about all that they’ve lost.

Meanwhile, Dean is mmm-hmming and pulling out his ubiquitous flask of booze for a few hefty swigs. And not once does Sam notice that his brother is hitting the bottle (and though he does notice Dean eating a lot, he doesn’t put two and two together and realize that Dean is eating a lot). It’s a nicely understated scene about how each brother is (not) coping, but I find myself wondering if all of the stuff about Dean’s nonverbal non-coping was in the direction because the rest of the script is all Tralalalala Puir Sammy and Sam’s own obliviousness to Dean’s drinking makes Sam look like a tool.

It doesn’t help that what Dean is eating in that first scene after the credits is Mary’s favorite food – bacon. There he is, quietly mourning his mother (all over again) by eating breakfast as if she were still there. Not only doesn’t Sam notice that, but he downmouths the very idea of eating bacon that isn’t the veggie burger kind (he even gags when he realizes it’s the real thing). Nor does he mention Mary, since he’s too wrapped up in bemoaning having to put Rowena down like Old Yeller last week and is still hung up on the death of Mary’s murderer, whom he still insists on seeing as a foster son. And what does Dean do? Try to cheer Sam up by turning it into a prank. And does Sam respond? Nope. His head is too far up his own ass even to notice what Dean is trying to do.

It’s not that Sam isn’t sad or depressed, but when the story puts him next to someone who is just as sad and depressed, yet not only is Dean getting out there and taking care of business, but he’s also getting out there and taking care of Sam’s business for him, while Sam stays in his room and mopes, it makes it hard for me to care about Sam’s epic manpain.

Probably the best scene is the opening teaser, which turns out to be Sam’s dream (and possible vision of another reality that Chuck created). But again, this points up the deficits of the script. Jensen Ackles has said he asked to expand what was originally on the page into an extended fight scene. I’m not gonna lie – that scene is a thing of violent, tragic beauty. It’s basically Dean in a last stand with his Hunter team, who are loyal to him and who include a dying Benny, against Sam and a bunch of smarmy demons. Ackles directs action very well and the show’s still got a good crew to back him up.

But it suffers from the same flaw that “The End” did back in season five. It pits a fascinatingly flawed and scarred EndTimes!Dean against a bland Superpowerful Sam. And that version of Sam makes drying paint look action-packed. Nickifer had a character arc, so he could stick around for a while (too long, imho, but he did have a point and was scary for a while). But Samifer is simply the end result of Sam saying yes and the closer Sam got to being Lucifer’s vessel, the less of a personality he had (and what he retained was really unpleasant). At the point Lucifer possesses him in these AUs, Sam “dies” permanently and ceases to exist. Samifer, being Dean’s bane, then kills Dean. Except as an endgame character, Samifer has no point. So, once he shows up, the clock starts running on the fun because the moment he snaps Dean’s neck, the moment’s over. Mixing it up by having him “still” be Sam, but hopped up on demon blood, doesn’t improve matters.

And yet, as Ackles’ account heavily implies, the entire simplistic point of this scene was to get to that moment.

Another nice Easter egg of the episode was the montage near the end where the Brothers dispatch the MOTW. I was not the least bit impressed by the shallow, rich parents (that pains me, because I like Duncan Fraser). They came off as shrill and obnoxious, having no rational backstory for their delusional obsession with killing to protect their son (was this a metaphor for young athletes who are rapists or murderers or what?). It felt like a lazy stab at the recent college admissions scandal, but instead, we got stuck with a paint-by-numbers hunt involving an upper-class school, with cheerleaders and jocks, and a lot of shallow misogyny. Poor Susie barely exists except as a victim for her sympathetic-monster boyfriend to accidentally rip apart and Tori is basically a Damsel in Distress/blood bag.

There was a possibility here to tell an elegiac story in memorial for Rowena that highlighted her growth from an uncaring to an obsessive to a grieving mother, who eventually grew into a heroic figure. The script could have made into a metaphor of comparison the parents and their misogynistic focus on literally using dead girls’ bodies to save their son and fuel his sports career. But I sense that kind of depth never once occurred to Perez and the others in the writers room. They were too busy with their obvious and self-congratulatory meta involving Chuck the Writer Stand-In being an Angry God.

It’s not even that the ‘rents’ sociopathic self-absorption is left to subtext or metaphor – the script doesn’t address it at all. When Daddy and Mommy Dearest were whining that only a parent could understand why they cut up an innocent girl to cover for their son, and kidnapped another innocent girl to feed him with her blood, I kept wondering why no one else suggested they try that line on with Susie or Tori’s parents. See how forgiving they’d be.

The son was sympathetic, if only because he met the minimum requirements of decent human behavior that his parents didn’t, by not running from or fighting his fate in the form of the Brothers Winchester. He went to his death, knowing it was the right thing. But with how clearly the script wants us to perceive Billy, it’s that much more frustrating how vague and unsatisfying the writing is for his parents. Are we supposed to see them as evil? If so, why aren’t they messily dead by the end of the episode? If the script wants us to see them as desperate and confused, why are they so damned unsympathetic?


But the montage of Dean beheading Billy to Radio Company‘s mournful and bluesy “Sounds of Someday” was surprisingly effective. For those who have been hiding under a rock, Radio Company is the pairing between Ackles and his friend Steve Carlson, and Ackles sings lead vocals on this song. All that said, this isn’t just product placement or substituting soundtrack music for a rock standard. The song actually works with the montage. There’s a bleak, 70s roadhouse sound to it, with vaguely apocalyptic lyrics that set a mood rather than narrate a story.

I have mixed feelings about the scenes between Becky and Chuck. As much as I love the acting between them (Emily Perkins really nails Becky’s hard-won Soccer Mom maturity, and then her fear and despair as Chuck rips the veil off the true state of her universe in an almost Lovecraftian way), I still hate, hate hate the idea of Chuck as God. The more we dig into this storyline, the more I dig my heels in to resist it.

In order for the Winchesters to have any chance to beat him, then God has to become … well … not really God, anymore. He can’t be omniscient because then he’d anticipate every single thing they ever did or thought, or ever could do or think. He can’t be omnipotent, because then there’d be no way to beat him. He can’t be omnipresent or omnitemporal because then he’d be everywhere and everywhen, and not allow this situation to occur in the first place because he would have seen it coming billions of years away.

So, if he’s none of those things, how can he be God? Okay, he created the SPNverse, but that just makes him a demiurge, not God with a capital G. And Amara can’t be God, either, because she’s not omniscient. I’m still hoping there will be some twist in all this – such as that the Chuck we’ve seen since last season’s finale is actually the Empty Entity (since his current nihilistic attitude reflects the persona of the Empty Entity much more than what we’ve seen of Chuck over the years), but it still begs the question of why the “real” Chuck didn’t foresee this.

I get the impression, thanks to their constant obsession with the Thanos storyline in the Marvel films (and Andrew Dabb’s background in comics), that the writers are under the delusion that movie Thanos is a good villain. Lordie, no. Enough about that damned finger snap.

Thanos is a one-note antagonist, about on the level with a natural disaster but somehow less compelling. That’s why he gets killed off so early in the latest film. Thanos is simply not that interesting, even including his creepy relationship with his forcibly adopted daughters. What is interesting is how various characters react to the destruction that one snap (and how Thanos got the stones to make it happen) causes. So, modeling Chuck (a character who, to this point, has actually been fairly mysterious if not the least bit ineffable) after Thanos is a major mistake.

The question arises, “Why all the puppet strings?” Why does Chuck need to write a story in order to manipulate the Winchesters into doing what he wants? I mean, I get why that would work with Sam. Sam’s entire story has been about how he rebelled against one script (the Family Business and John’s blue collar revenge quest), only to find his very rebellion was another, deeper script being written by demons at Lucifer’s behest.

And I also get why it would work with Castiel. Castiel, as an angel, basically didn’t have any Free Will during his first appearances and we discover later that every time in the past he’d gotten some, it was erased by more angelic programming. Chuck was usually the one who kept bringing him back, so the subsequent chaos he sowed had to be been part of Chuck’s plan.

As for Jack, Chuck admitted outright in last season’s finale that Jack’s conception and birth and supposedly chaotic rampage of childish power were nothing more than an assassination attempt on Dean. As soon as Dean threw down the Equalizer gun and refused to shoot Jack, Jack became surplus to requirements. With a snap of his fingers, Chuck smote him. Even after Sam shot Chuck in revenge and made him angry, Chuck still had more than enough power to open all the gates of Hell. Jack, far from how he’d been built up over two seasons, was never a threat to his grandfather.

But that’s the thing – Chuck can smite anyone. He should be able to pop up in the Bunker at any time and kill everyone there. I mean, look what he did to Becky and her family.

What was so chilling about the acting and direction of the rather simplistic scriptwriting for their scenes was how we saw that Becky had grown up and was now happy, only to have her creepy ex pop in after he’d ghosted her nearly a decade before. Then slowly, in an increasingly dark sequence that felt like a predator stalking an unsuspecting and totally helpless prey, we saw Becky’s dawning horror as she realized that not only was Chuck God, but he really was The Monster At The End Of This Book. And then he smote her (yeah, I know he claimed that he didn’t actually kill her and her family, but they sure aren’t in the story, anymore).

So, why, when it comes to the Winchesters, is he writing a story, instead? We had this self-indulgent bullshit in season nine with Metatron and it was pretty tedious. And yeah, having Chuck the Author Insert smiting Becky the Fandom Insert was pretty mean-spirited (also inaccurate, since Dabb & Co. don’t have jobs without an audience). Authors, just because you’re building the world and creating the characters, that does not make you God in the story. Resist the urge to self-insert like that.

But we’re stuck with that concept here and therefore, we must wrestle with it [downs more rum and eggnog]. Why is Chuck pulling a Bond Villain and writing a story about the Winchesters instead of just visiting the Bunker, a-smitin’ as he goes, like not-quite-Samifer in the episode’s teaser? If he’s that mad at them, why give them a chance to wriggle out of his trap and get him back? Didn’t he already learn from Sam shooting him last season?

See, that’s the thing – Sam and Castiel may have proven unable to break free from Chuck’s predestination all their existence, but this is categorically not true for Dean. Dean has broken free of Chuck’s story at least three times and the third time was the end of last season. There’s been a lot of fan focus on Sam shooting Chuck (which took Chuck by surprise), but this was something that occurred in the wake of Dean taking Chuck by surprise by refusing to shoot Jack, and Chuck flipping the table over it.

It wasn’t until Dean flatly rejected Chuck’s order to pick up the gun and shoot Jack that Chuck smote Jack himself. Yeah, Chuck threw a tantrum after Sam shot him, but Sam didn’t shoot Chuck until after Dean defied him and after Chuck smote Jack. The decision that kicked things off was Dean refusing to bow to Chuck’s story, to Chuck’s will, even after Chuck switched to bargaining and offered Mary back (and why did he even need to bargain with Dean when he could smite Jack himself at any time?).

So, even if Chuck writes another story, Dean is bound to disobey and change it at some point. Because that’s just how Dean rolls. And once Dean rolls that way, it allows other characters (like Sam) also to break free. Why is Chuck choosing, again, to go this route? Why not just smite Dean? Dean even asked him why he didn’t do that and Chuck only tossed him into a tombstone after Dean physically went after him. That’s what gave Sam the opening to pick up the gun and shoot Chuck.

The thing with Becky (and what’s so bleak about it) is that to her, of course, she was the Hero of the story. Chuck brutally disabused her of that notion and casually swept her off the board. After all, she knows his current plan and might warn Sam and Dean about it. But also, he did it just because he could. And that begs the biggest question – why can’t he just do that to Sam and Dean?

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19 thoughts on “The Official Supernatural: “Atomic Monsters” (15.04) Live Recap Thread”

  1. I think Chuck is ‘pervy’ about Dean (Lilith says so next week). I had the wackadoodle idea that Chuck wanted to ‘write’ a SEX SCENE for Dean. Ick!!

    I had a whole different take on the parents in this episode: they were aggressively pretending EVERYTHING was all right. If they could just get their son to college, they were in denial of what he was it was so obvious to me. They were doing everything and pretending everything was going to be OK.

    I ‘do’ wish they’d explained or given an idea what had happened to Billy; they should’ve shown ‘silent’ scenes when Billy died he told them where his Maker was and then shown them killing that nest. (I thought I wonder if Billy might meet Benny in Purgatory and liked that thought.)

    Mom and Dad were ‘also’ going thru something awful. That was why they were acting so weird. I think I have more sympathy for them than most. They just wanted to pretend everything was going to be all right. I actually got that.

    If Jensen ‘filled in’ or ‘wrote’ the beginning fight scene I wonder why he could not add in a scene in which they took out the nest (set to the music of course used throughout the end scene). Now I ‘think’ I understand that Chuck is writing them crap-ola hunts (they are talking about how things are ‘too easy’ this week or just plain weird) and that was what Becky was complaining about.

    I felt AWFUL for Becky and her family. My gosh.

    As to Chuck’s powers, I think there has been a major malfunction. I do not think at this time he is ‘fully’ God. I do not know how that can be for the reasons YOU mentioned above. He either IS or he IS NOT God so I do not know where this is headed.

    Je suis confuse’.

    1. I didn’t see the parents as monsters for protecting their son so much as for being completely uncaring about his victim *and* procuring new ones for him. They were far more monstrous than he was. That kind of obsession is usually a case of trying to live through your child.

      I don’t think Ackles could get the extra screentime to fill in that plothole, unfortunately. Though I agree that it was a plothole.

      Tu n’es pas seule. Je suis confusee, aussi.

  2. That opening action sequence was definitely the bright spot of the episode, and the whole thing was Jensen’s idea! It’s great to see that he’s still challenging himself and going after what he wants rather than getting complacent (even though he has plenty of reason to be, with the way his character’s stories have been handled and the show’s nosediving quality overall).

    There’s still the giant elephant in the room AKA Dean’s death books that still hasn’t been addressed. And while I would like to think that Dabb couldn’t possibly ignore such an important and unresolved plot point, I was already burned last season when I thought there’d be some final climactic twist about AUMichael still being in play. Rowena referencing her own destined death and then following through on it just makes this giant loose end even more blatant.

    Wanting to see how that particular nugget eventually shakes out is half of why I’m still watching. Our caged Michael must have been brought up in the premier for exactly that reason, right? (Lol.) We’ve still got to sit through a bunch of half-assed filler in the meantime, though.

    1. The opening action sequence (interestingly enough) demonstrates that Ackles is still interested in doing the show. I’d be surprised if the CW hadn’t noticed that.

      Ah, the death books. I haven’t brought them up recently because it’s just plain depressing how that (very interesting) plotline got dropped like a hot rock as soon as Jack Sue got his improbable kill versus alt-Michael. Okay, so let’s assume that Billie foresaw that the only real way Dean could get out of letting alt-Michael use his body to destroy the SPNverse was to make the Ma’lak Box that would actually be used against Jack. It still needs to be addressed that this was the actual outcome of that one way of Dean escaping Michael’s control and preventing the SPNverse from being destroyed. It still needs to be addressed how that changed Dean’s fate. What do his books look like now? It still needs to be addressed that Chuck actually stated in the season finale that he was angry at Billie for interfering like that. Those things need to be addressed. Will they? No idea. But it’s not a minor thing that they dropped that plot.

      1. Wait. Doesn’t Dean have the actual final Dean Winchester volume? You would think that once Jensen’s storyline was wasted-uh, I meant to say that once Deans destiny was changed that the book would update once more? You would think that they would have at least taken a peak at the pages to see. Deans destiny changed. Again. Through his will. Seems like out of all of them, he’s the only character that manages to thwart his fate on the regular.

        So is Sammy going to go DemonBloodVision/Hunter/Warlock the last season? Or just BestestWarlock/Hunter ever? What is with this whole Ginger Junior bit anyway. Granted Sam knows Latin and you might say has cast more spells than Dean and has spent a bit more time around Rowena but enough to become the heir apparent? So Rowena left a journal of her spells… so now Sam is going to be able to conjure and cast with the best of them? Rowena studied for years. Under the best of her time. She has repeatedly said witchcraft is more than just the ingredients. And how can we overlook when she upgraded herself to purple eyed status. The strongest witch. Able to use the Book of the Slightly Less Fortunate as well as the Black Grimoire. I’m sorry, I’m just not buying this.

        I am hating this new no canon rule too. Canon from before no longer applies since Chuck did his final apocalyptic temper tantrum. So in other words Dabb and Company can write whatever nonsensical crap they want. No rules. Bleh.

        Desteliers are convinced Deans prayer to Cas Episode 9 will be where he finally admits his true feelings.

        Is it remotely possible that when Chuck snapped his fingers and started the final Apocalypse that he could have put the boys in an alternate universe? Mirror of theirs? I keep thinking back on that Mirror Company from last year – it seemed like it was foreshadowing something. The foreshadow never made sense in that season, but TPTB didn’t know the show was ending so my musings don’t make sense either.

        Sorry. It’s late. I’m tired. And I’ve had a few so probably not making a lot of sense. Suffice it to say, I believe I’m going to be one of the 30. Percent that is. That are going to hate the ending.

        1. I’m still not sure where the writers are going with this. In large part because I don’t think the writers know, either.

          I’m…not sure how I feel about Ackles not liking the ending. There are some endings I think I’d like that I think he’d need being talked into. So, I’m hanging fire on that. Also, the show ain’t all written and filmed, yet. You can bet there will be some discussions over the Christmas break about how well this season has been received so far.

          I didn’t actually hate this past week’s episode. It was better written than the others this season (despite the clunky ghost fight and a Dumb on Cue bit for Dean near the end), but it had some clever bits and I’m glad Eileen’s back (even if the way they killed her off in the first place was stupid). Wasn’t this by the new kid?

          I did roll my eyes really, really hard at the whole Witch!Sam thing. Sam and Rowena were never friends before this season. They didn’t even like each other. And since when is becoming a witch something to celebrate? Witches selfishly trade in black magic that hurts people. I get that the Nepotism Duo have a hard-on for a concept of witchcraft that doesn’t fit comfortably in the show, but come on. Rowena didn’t become a witch because she was a nice person. She was on a redemption arc to make up for being a witch.

          Funnily enough, while it may be intended to be a bit of Sam worship, this witch storyline actually smacks of desperation. I mean, Chuck being sexually obsessed with Dean? That makes sense. That follows on 15 years of important monsters wanting a piece of Dean’s “sweet, sweet ass.” It’s cool while also introducing all sorts of dramatic complications.

          But Sam as a witch? That came out of nowhere. It’s as if they ran completely out of things for Sam to do in this final season, so they flailed around and fridged a female fan favorite to make Sam a thing that isn’t actually a good thing to be, especially for Sam. The writers are trying so hard to make us forget all about Ruby, and how much she corrupted Sam into using black magic, that it’s painful. This storyline is like one where suddenly, we’re pretending that someone who nearly destroyed their life and family with a heroin addiction, but has been clean for years, not only can safely go back go heroin now, but heroin makes him a superhero and isn’t problematical for him at all. And that’s a bad message to send about one of your protags.

          1. So where do you see Cas? Will he die before series end? Nobly for the Winchesters or heroically for the good of the world? (And what’s up with the reduction in power?) What do you think Dean is going to confess in his prayer? Jensen said to explain his actions and why he feels the way he does regarding Cas. Why he’s acted the way he has toward him. Please no begging for forgiveness or making Dean out to be the one in the wrong. Cas has been at the center of many things that have gone bad. In general and to the brothers. Cas’s hands are far from clean . Destielers are out in force, claiming this will be when Dean professes his love for Cas. I think it’s going to be more general as in Dean has finally come to grips with the relationship and what it means. Any thoughts on the upcoming prayer?

            1. I think that whatever the prayer ends up being aired will be a huge disappointment for those hanging their hopes on it. The show is close to 100% on that score. If Dean ends up apologizing to Castiel, after all the destructive, sloppy and narcissistic shit Castiel has pulled over the years (and how he got Rowena killed this season), especially with Jack, I will be irritated. He owes Dean an apology, not the other way round – and I mean a real one where he doesn’t act passive-aggressive about it, then turn around and make the same damned mistakes two seconds later. Dean is not wrong that Castiel makes a lot of mistakes and is as much of a liability to TFW as an asset.

              On the other hand, I don’t see Castiel coming out on top in that interaction in the end. The writers love to make Castiel bitchy about Dean because it generates cheap drama, but I don’t think they’ve ever loved him nearly as much as the fandom does. They’ll probably have him sacrifice himself in some cheesy way along the lines of Crowley.

              1. Do you really want blame Castiel for Rowena’s death? What choice did he have when Belphegor betrayed them? Belphegor was on the verge of becoming a new, unstoppable enemy.

                1. Of course it’s Castiel’s fault. It was Castiel’s part of the mission to ensure that Belphegor *didn’t* screw things up or screw them over. He failed. Rowena had to come up with a Plan B, which entailed her having to die.

                  So, yeah, that one’s on Castiel.

                  The saddest part of the entire thing was that Rowena’s response boiled down to “Yes, I figured he’d screw it up, so I came up with another plan just in case.” That’s how poor Castiel’s track record is.

  3. The Chuck character has transformed a great deal from when he initially appeared. For quite some time, he appeared as a somewhat charming, somewhat nerdy writer. Eventually, he was revealed to be God, though he seemed to retain many of his earlier personality traits. But beginning with the end of last season, and especially this one, Chuck/God comes across as a bad guy. Like you, I was disturbed at how he mistreated Becky.

    As a writer, could you conceive of a better way to develop the Chuck character? Do you consider it a mistake to have turned him into God?

    By the way, as I indicated once last season, your appraisal of the episodes are at sharp variance with that of many fans. “Atomic Monsters” has an 8.8 score at Several professional reviewers have also said that they liked it, as well as the general trend of the final season.

    1. IMdB scores are notoriously easy to game and it is not at all uncommon for misogynists and/or racists to vote a film or show up or down months before it has been released and anyone has seen it. Purportedly, one reason IMdB ended up closing down the message boards was because films and TV shows with African American and/or women leads often turned into a cesspool of hate from incels and alt-Right losers. I have to say the admins weren’t entirely wrong (though they helped create the situation by having pretty much no effective, let alone objective, moderation whatsoever, and that ultimately suited their purposes).

      Supernatural episodes always get high scores on IMdB. Thing is, those high scores are usually established before the episode even airs.

      As for reviewers of shows and films (who these days, are basically fans who wangled their way into a blogging job), if you want inside access to said shows or films, you will never, ever, ever be critical of the show’s party line (this is by no means unique to Supernatural). And a show’s party line is not always stated outright by the showrunners.

      For example, going back to the Kripke years, you may have noticed that Sam stan reviewers *always* had more access to the set and to the actors than any other type of fan. It is not a coincidence that the long-time writers about the show at TV Guide and Variety, for example, slant heavily in favor of Sam, even in seasons when Sam didn’t have a whole lot to do. And unfortunately, the tendency for Sam stans to go to sites espousing views they didn’t like (though their power is much diminished from their heyday in seasons four and five) and bully people back to what they considered the orthodox view, is now legendary.

      But should you take a deep dive into Twitter, especially during an episode’s broadcast, you are likely to notice that my view of the season so far is downright sunny and positive compared to that of a lot of saltgunners on Twitter, especially the ones who have been watching for a long time.

      Now back to story discussion. I hated the idea of Chuck being God from the start and said so, vociferously, the second they broached the possibility when “The Monster at the End of This Book” first aired. It wasn’t that I was “surprised” when they finally “went there.” It was that I was hoping they would just walk away quietly from that particular plot landmine because no good could come of it.

      The thing is that Chuck was a likable fan favorite when he first appeared, but as “The End” demonstrated, it was because he was a hapless Cassandra figure who told the future and couldn’t do a thing about it. Making him God completely negated that persona and, therefore, made him instantly unlikable. They ruined a fan favorite for a “Gotcha” moment lots of people saw coming. What some fans did *not* see coming was that said moment would ruin the character, as well as the character of God that he became, pretty much in one fell swoop.

      Look, I don’t claim to know everything there is to know about fiction, but I’ve sold a few stories and I’ve edited a lot and I teach writing. So, I like to think I’m reasonably decent at seeing writing problems farther ahead than perhaps some other fans. I accurately predicted that ending the White Walkers storyline earlier than the Thrones ending on Game of Thrones was a bad idea because the White Walkers storyline was the bigger drama, due to being the actual existential threat. Anything else afterward would be a let-down (and it was – dear Lord, was it ever).

      I accurately predicted that dragging things out in Bobby’s swan song was a bad idea that would ruin him for a lot of people and that he would return as a ghost, which would be even more problematical because ghosts are both mindless and monstrous. And I also accurately predicted that once fans got over the excitement of seeing the “Chuck is God” reveal, even a lot of the folks who really wanted Chuck confirmed as God were going to end up hating the ramifications down the road. These problems were not that hard to see because when you plot out a story ahead of time, there are only so many ways you can go and how the audience reacts to them is greatly affected by other stories they have read or watched with similar plots.

      So, for example, the other reason I was dismayed at the “Chuck is God” reveal is that the show only had a few ways to go with a God reveal. One was to make God compassionate, but compelled by His/Her own rules to respect Free Will and its consequences (this would be something along the lines of revealing that Death was God and while that’s bleak, it’s entirely fitting for the show and I’d have been okay with it). Another was for God to have gone down to Earth and become a human as a Christ archetype, to save people, and have forgotten He/She was God as part of becoming mortal for a while (tricky, but doable, if they had made Dean God, due to Dean’s massive and unconscious influence on the SPNverse, mostly for the good).

      Or (my least favorite), they could do Asshole!God.

      Asshole!God is basically like God in Paradise Lost – He’s got a plan and He’s a massive dick with a cruel sense of humor about it. This is one of the reasons why so many readers empathize with Lucifer in PL (totally never Milton’s intent, as far as we can now determine). Underneath the flowery language about God’s ineffability and the Son’s holy awesomeness is a rotten core of unfairness to a universe that was basically created by a complete shithead. Yeah, Lucifer’s pretty self-involved, himself, but he’s got nothing on Daddy Dearest. For some reason, whenever hack Hollywood writers actually dare to portray God onscreen as a character, guess which way they usually go? Yep. Option #3.

      Terrible writers in horror seem to be drawn to certain cliched plots like flies to a dumpster fire. They like stories involving shocking, pointless deaths, everybody dies scenarios, shock!twists, and lots of Omniscient Author Insert stuff. The idea of the Writer of the story being the God of the story is most irresistible precisely to the kind of writer least likely to have the skills to pull it off. It panders to the authorial ego and I certainly think it pandered to Kripke’s ego as it’s pandering now to Dabb’s.

      Such writers in horror often have bitter feelings about God in real life (in my experience, atheists who are actually happy and content with their worldview don’t hate God because they don’t believe God exists) and therefore want to write a story in which God is an asshole. But they never seem to get that if, in the story, the Author is God and God is an Asshole, it therefore follows that the Author is an Asshole.

  4. Its weird to me how good directing can change a perspective. Jensen is truly talented guy. And Im highly sceptical of folks who jump into different professions. Call me old-fashioned, but I dont really like this trend of musicians-turned-actors , models jumping into movies and cetera. The result is usually bad. But his work allmost made me not hate this episode and thats huge for Dabbnatural.
    Speaking of Chuck- I dont anything for sure but I have a gut feeling that we wont get “Chuck is an Empty Entity” plotline. Also I think that Castiel’s deal will be another quickly resolved plotline, but thats a whole other conversation. I guess my intuition tells me Dabb wants to go Benioff/Weiss way and try to make something unexpected(and ruin canon in process) to look smarter than he actually is. Plus he wants a Big Guy as a villain, eventhough not every big guy is suited to be an antagonist. I think I went nuts while arguing with ppl after s14 finale about Chick not being a good choice mostly because hes so powerfull that any victory against him will look like a straight asspull. At leats in s11 we had a powerfull foe (Amara) to match him. So I cant say for sure(with this chaotic team of bad writers) but my theory is that they de-power Chuck, do something with him(probably with help from Michael, because I feel like Dabb will keep Abel around for a little longer) and put Jack on his place, not necessarily as God, but for a Darkness/Light counterbalance .Call me crazy but I have a feeling(yea, I have a lot of them lately) that Dabb wont pass on the opportuinity to make his pet the center of the universe

    1. Well, I can’t say that you’re totally offbase. As depressing as the potential scenario you’ve laid out is, I think it’s a distinct possibility (plus, it would be just like these writers to go the completely linear route rather than for a clear and organic twist that would explain all their LOL!canon and get them off the hook). I sure hope it won’t turn out that way, but these writers … aigh. And yeah, Chuck is overpowered, pretty much like every other Big Bad the show has ever had. This isn’t just a flaw for Supernatural. It’s a flaw for horror and sci-fi show in general.

      That said (look, I can’t stay drunk through all my recaps and reviews, so I gotta maintain some hope), D&D’s Game of Thrones ending is now notorious for all the wrong reasons. And we know for a fact the showrunners are aware of the negative reaction (and the effect it had on D&D’s careers) because they referenced it in the show. Plus, Dabb and Singer don’t have carte blanche. They answer to the network and the network … seems intent on keeping the SPNverse around in some form and wouldn’t mind keeping Jensen Ackles around, either (they’ve already got Padalecki on another project). So, let’s just say that this new revival of Chuck’s obsession with Dean … intrigues me. And hey, I did mostly enjoy season 14 up until Jack Sue killed alt-Michael in the most egregious asspull ever.

      Also, Jack as God reminds me of “It’s a Good Life” and not in a good way. That would not be an upgrade from Chuck.

      1. Chucks obsession with Dean is definitely intriguing and that’s why I don’t think it will go much of anywhere. Dabb, remember? Or we will get something that will entice us, draw us in and then be dropped 3 episodes into it. Hello Purgatory, DemonDean, MichaelDean! After MichaelDean and the Malak Box I will never get my hopes up for a decent fully realized storyline for Jensen or Dean again. DabbNatural. Ugh.

        Speaking of – did you read the twitter comments regarding canon? Something to the effect that with the big reveal about God as well as his blowing things up as he has, that canon as it existed doesn’t really apply anymore. Aka an excuse for any kind of ridiculous crap they want to throw at us for the final season. I say lazy writing. They say anyone who doesn’t see the brilliance in Dabbs storyline are barbarians. Heathens. Sub par intelligence. Souls that have been to Hell persona non grata for entry into Heavens gates? Nu Canon Baby! Everything else is out the window.

        So more foreshadowing for the Winchesters?

        What was with the scene of Ghost Eileen and GhostWitch choking each other out? Wrestling on the floor? Gasping? They’re dead. No gasping necessary. Eileen back. Yay? Love interest for Sam? Personally I’m not feeling it. At least they left her alive. The way Dabb and company are burning through Winchester friends and allies there isn’t a ton left and honestly I’ve grown weary already of the calvacade of returning characters. I hope they keep it to a minimum going forward. I fear Andrew won’t be happy until he runs through them all.

        So are they going to feature Sams special demon blood originated Powers this final season or make him Super Powered Warlock/Hunter Sam.

        I’m trying to stay positive and just enjoy the last season but it’s hard to watch Dabb dismantle everything that’s come before. Writers lie. It remains to be seen if this whole Chuck as Big Bad is really what it seems. Theories abound – The Empty Entity is Chuck seems to be the most prevalent.

        1. Well, someone’s always gonna be lining up to “fluff” the showrunners, no matter how dire the writing. Twitter seemed mighty divided on the subject, with some fans telling the sycophants to stop sucking Dabb’s dick (that was the actual expression used, not “fluff”).

          Frankly, I’m shocked the show even remembered Chuck’s obsession with Dean (more on that in my reviews). Was wondering if that was an accident of all the LOL!canon Dabb & Co. have been engaging in the past few seasons. I think the writers are just plain played out and don’t care, anymore.

          The Nepotism Duo seem to be vaguely aware that this is their last industry writing gig (I notice Singer’s been awfully quiet of late). Also, Dabb gives off vibes of being bitter that the network didn’t pick up either of his pilots without quite understanding why. And yes, industry writers can totally be that petty.

          I’m not saying the CW is a bastion of great writing (I’ve given up on the rest of the CW lineup out of sheer frustration), but the current showrunners are making it pretty obvious why this current writing staff would have taken even a good concept like Wayward Sisters (or Dean!Michael) and run it right into the ground. The really sad thing is that I was enjoying Dean!Michael right up until they sacrificed it on the altar of Jack Sue. Who even *does* that?

          1. They always have done that to Jensen. Once the story starts really getting good they always ruin it. It was bad enough cutting DemonDean short but the final straw for me was the handing off the Malak Box to Jack. Any excitement that I still felt was effectively squashed once Michael left Dean. I believe that was our last chance to ever see Dean have a meaningful arch/storyline. It sure as Hell isnt going to happen this final season. I’m thinking it will end up SAM! and his sidekick/comic relief Dean. Jensen having to be talked into/convinced liking the ending? Makes me really nervous. The man has good instincts and if he wasn’t feeling it, I’m fairly certain there’s a good reason and it isn’t all “you’re too close to it”. This season so far we’ve seen GodWound Sam! VisionsSam! LeaderSam! WitchSam! to name a few. Dean? Mostly EatingDean! DrinkingDean! ComedyReliefDean! Each episode builds Sam up in a new way. So yeah. GodWoundConnected/Visions/Warlock/UberHunter/Sam. I wonder when they are going to have him start walking on water? Pffft. Call me skeptical.

  5. My feeling is that Chuck doesn’t know what to make of Dean. Chuck’s used to his characters dancing to his tune. Although TFW all defy that expectation, Dean especially refuses to neatly fit in Chuck’s box. He’s badass and gentle, crude and empathetic, courageous and fearful. Chuck even tried to emulate Dean by wearing his robe, looking at his porn, eating the same food but it didn’t work because Dean is so much more. Cosmic beings, assorted supernatural entities, hardcore assassins – they all eventually fall under Dean’s spell. He’s a creation that’s outgrown his creator, which I think both fascinates and angers Chuck in equal measure. A lot of Chuck’s efforts right now feels aimed at Dean specifically – Michael, Mary’s death & soulless Jack, the vampire boy aka Jack mirror, Lilith’s attention. You might be right that Chuck wanted to kill Dean. I wonder, though, if Chuck might be trying to instead break Dean, aka humanity’s avatar and the poster child for free will.

    1. For Chuck, I think “break” and “kill” are the same thing. If he does manage to break Dean to his will, then the Dean Winchester we know will effectively cease to exist.

      I wonder if this is intended (unintentionally) as a metaphor for a character who became popular and got out of the control of the show’s writers. But I have no idea where they’d go with it because this kind of meta is pretty clearly beyond their skills to pull off. I continue to hope for a miracle – or maybe a very good writer pulling the strings behind the scenes.

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