Review: Supernatural: “Patience” (13.03)

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[lots o’ spoilers ahead]

While this episode was by no means perfect, I’m happy to report my relief when I first watched it that it was not half as boring as the previous one, albeit it ran a trifle long in some spots (it was only about two minutes over the usual time, but some of that dragged a bit). I was also pleased to find, despite some serious flaws in the character’s central conflict, that I rather liked Patience and the actress who played her. This was a very good thing. After “Rising Son,” I was beginning to wonder if it was time to hang it up with this show.

I was also happy to discover that even though this was the first of the lead-up episodes to the backdoor pilot for the new spin-off, Wayward Sisters, it had a fair bit of conflict and action involving Sam and Dean, who each had a storyline this week. Last season suffered greatly from Sam and Dean: Guest Stars in Their Own Show Syndrome. So far this season, that’s been greatly alleviated, at least for Jensen Ackles, who’s not fielding any newborns at home this year.

The funniest (and most reassuring in terms of how the new show will go over with fans) thing is that everyone has a different favorite. They like Claire, but they hate Patience. They like Kaia, but they hate Alex. They think Jody and Donna should be Hunting, but just together and not with any younger charges. Nobody can agree except that a lot of fans have already picked a favorite, if only in relation to at least one other character they feel shouldn’t be on the show. This indicates that fans in general have already got past the initial phase of accepting the overall concept of a group of women Hunting together and mentoring each other. They just can’t agree on which characters they think should be in that group. Considering most fans can’t really agree on liking Sam, Dean, Castiel, Crowley, and so on, even after 13 seasons, that’s a good sign for Wayward Sisters, not bad.


Which is not to say the episode (or even the new show’s franchise concept so far) lacks flaws. Missouri Moseley returns in this one. Remember her? Season one? Kripke-penned “Home”? Let me refresh your memory – she was an African American psychic who fawned over Sam a lot and smacked Dean upside the head for … uh … reasons. Or something. That Missouri.

Now, obviously, there was some unfinished business between her and the Brothers, so you could say she had a reason to come back. Was this addressed? Nope. Sam doesn’t even see Missouri this time round. He’s too busy babysitting Jack for more than a quick phone call, and he and Dean have a fight over just sending Jody to deal with it before Dean goes off to help her. Dean gets no apology or even acknowledgement of any kind from her about her previous treatment of him (though she does commiserate with him on his “recent losses,” which she senses in his mind, so there’s that). In fact, when he makes the logical protest to her staying behind (while there’s a psychic-eating monster on the loose), Missouri’s Inner Bitch comes roaring out. Consider those loose ends still dangling.

Anyway, she’s only there to introduce a younger, prettier psychic, her granddaughter Patience. God forbid the CW have an older, gifted female (let alone an older female PoC) character as a main lead. I didn’t love the way Missouri was fridged to jumpstart the title character’s story.


It bothered me that not only were the two PoC female leads for Wayward Sisters introduced very late in the day, but they were introduced in a fundamentally different way from that of Claire and Alex, who were introduced as victims of the supernatural (like Sam, Dean, Jody and Donna), rather than as essentially supernatural beings (like Patience and Kaia). Also, the CW has an extremely poor track record with PoC female characters with powers, wherein they end up powerful handmaidens to white girls. Bonnie from The Vampire Diaries fairly leaps to mind here.

Not helping is the way Patience’s father, James, is portrayed. It’s one thing to be introduced to the supernatural world in a traumatic way. A lot of people will go straight to denial, initially, as the show has demonstrated many times. But James was raised in the Life. He knows the supernatural exists. Hell, he can even work divination magic. He just wants to stick his head in the sand, even if it gets his mother and daughter killed.

The thing is that if you read between the lines (and remember how Missouri was introduced almost 12 seasons ago), there’s plenty of reason for James to resent his mother. Missouri dragged him along with her on down the road to Hunting supernatural things and it seems pretty clear that it traumatized him. The catalyst for their final estrangement may have been Missouri’s cocky miscalculation about the fate of his wife (Patience’s mother), but it’s clear a lot of bad things happened before that.


But the writing wants us to believe that James is the bad guy here. Since the episode never addresses the stark contrast in how Missouri treated Sam (with powers) and Dean (no powers as far she could see) in season one, it neatly avoids addressing the pretty stark contrast between Missouri’s treatment of James her son (no apparent powers) and Patience her granddaughter (practically a Mary Sue). Missouri is a bigot when it comes to plain, old, ordinary humans. It’s therefore a tad difficult to believe the episode’s portrayal of James – a man old enough to have a teenage daughter and successful enough to be raising her in a safe, nurturing, upper-middle-class environment – as too immature to forgive his saintly mother.

It doesn’t help that the episode is wildly inconsistent in portraying Missouri and Patience’s talents. Dean tells Jody that Missouri can read objects, but what we actually see her do, for the most part, is read minds to a limited extent and foretell the future in blurry images. That’s not reading the past from objects, Show. Reading objects is a different ESP talent.

Also, we’re apparently supposed to get the idea from that that she is able to foretell her and the MOTW’s futures enough to determine that she can’t escape the MOTW, at least not without endangering her family (she specifically sees James, but then talks about Patience to him). How is this even possible when you have two new variables – Dean and Jody – in the equation? That smacks of overly convenient writing. You’d think Missouri would have learned from the mistake she made in predicting the fate of James’ wife/Patience’s mom that her powers are not infallible, but nope.

In addition, the family member who ends up in immediate danger is Patience, not James. Patience is threatened by the MOTW immediately after he kills her grandmother. It seems he was able to kill Missouri, and then zip past Dean and Jody to attack Patience before they could even contact James. I call shenanigans on that timing.


In fact, I call shenanigans on that whole MOTW, but let’s finish talking about Patience’s powers, first. Patience initially has a dream that warns her of both her grandmother’s death and the MOTW’s attack on her later at the school. This dream seems to be a mix of literal precognition (the attack) and metaphor (her grandmother’s ghost warning her). Okay, this is a dream we’re talking about, so a little funky logic is acceptable.

But then, after she’s captured, Patience has a prolonged waking vision of her father, Jody and then Dean being killed, which allows her to warn each of them about the MOTW’s attack. But this is a different kind of precog from what she previously showed and all three types are different from what Missouri had.

This may seem like nitpicking, but if you look at how Sam’s precog was shown in the first two seasons, it’s very consistent and that’s pretty important to the story. He has quick flashes, usually of something fatal happening, accompanied by nasty headaches. If he acts on them, he is usually able to stop the event from happening, though something else bad may happen, instead. Sometimes, he has dreams. Less often, he has waking visions. But they are always the same kind of thing.

Precog and even telepathy are shown similarly for other characters such as Psykids like Ava (in “Hunted”) and Andy (sending Dean a vision in “All Hell Breaks Loose, Part 1”), and even Chuck in “The Monster at the End of This Book.” We also have a clear origin for these visions. The Psykids apparently get theirs from Azazel, while Chuck gets them from the angels. Yes, I know we later find out Chuck is God, but his conversation with Zachariah at the end of that episode makes it clear the angels are sending him visions. Maybe they’re even sending them to the Psykids. Who knows? But the point is that these visions of the future don’t just pop up out of nowhere.

Missouri and Patience’s visions do, which means they’re much more malleable and “magical” in the sense of being overly convenient writing divorced from the logic of the worldbuilding. The characters don’t have these visions because the visions make sense in the context of the story. They have them just to move the story along.


Now let’s check out the MOTW. Unfortunately, whoever made up the recap spoiled the crap out of the MOTW “surprise” (admittedly, that cat came right out of the bag in the teaser, anyway), which is that the MOTW was a Wraith. I don’t think a Wraith was the right MOTW for what the episode wanted to do and the actor they got was definitely not right to convey what they wanted. Or maybe he was, which kinda makes it worse.

Now, the Wraith’s targeting psychics was fine, as far as it went. We know Wraiths like to feed on a specific kind of human, often a “soft” target that can’t fight back very well. And therein lies the problem. The Wraith we first met in “Sam, Interrupted” in season five was working at a psych hospital, targeting patients. If they weren’t psychotic when they came in, they sure were by the time the Wraith was ready to feed on them. The Wraith possessed a toxin, spread via touch, that made people psychotic. This particular Wraith actually enjoyed the taste of brains under extreme psychological distress and played an Angel of Mercy to get them. Subsequent mentions of them followed a similar pattern.

Aside from targeting those who generally can’t fight back very well (psychics, who are otherwise ordinary humans), the Wraith in “Patience” follows none of these rules. He doesn’t bother to poison or weaken his targets. He simply attacks them and overpowers them.

He doesn’t treat them as food, either. The actor who plays the Wraith plays feeding as a straight-up sexual serial-killing thing, which is not how the Wraith in “Sam, Interrupted” acted. The Wraith in “Patience” attacks women, specifically, and creeps all over them. The Wraith in “Sam, Interrupted” attacked different types of people, which actually made it scarier because it was hard to see a pattern at first, let alone who could be the Wraith. You couldn’t see it coming.

In “Patience,” we know right away. There’s no mystery about it whatsoever, especially since there is no attempt to give any backstory to the MOTW aside from where he got his predilection for psychic brains. It’s all very CW. In a bad way.

And it also means that the Wraith is way overpowered for this type of MOTW. I can see him taking out James, maybe even Jody, if he got lucky. But Dean? On top of the other two? Nope. Not the organized and well-armed way they came in.

Now, if the writers had used an MOTW that was known for being fast and strong, I might buy that. A Vampire or a Shapeshifter or a Djinn I could see. Or if they’d argued that this was the Alpha Wraith, maybe. But as it was, I didn’t buy this particular MOTW, or his ability to fight and evade and take down healthy human prey.

Hell, even Patience was able to break off the Wraith’s stinger (the way Dean did in “Sam, Interrupted,” albeit while barely able to stay upright due to being poisoned). Not exactly an intimidating monster. I just didn’t buy that he could take Dean at full strength, let alone Dean on top of Jody and James. And if the MOTW wasn’t that dangerous, that makes Patience’s precog flashes rather silly and unnecessary to the plot.

I got the impression that we were supposed to have the usual balance of opinions between Sam and Dean this week, where Sam was on one side and Dean on the other, and we were supposed to see both sides as having merit. Which was sort of true if you squinted, but only because the writing kept Telling us Dean’s judgement was off, while actually Showing something a bit different.

For a start, not only is Dean in character for telling Patience at the end to grab as much Normal as she can, but he’s right. Hunting never ends well for the Hunter. As Dean has put it many different ways in the past, “it ends bloody or sad … you’re covered in blood until you’re covered in your own blood.”

So, when Jody tells Patience that Dean’s wrong and that if Patience wants to get into the Life and use her “gift,” she can call her, I just want to suggest that Jody first tell Patience why she lived alone in a big, old, empty house before she took in Claire and Alex. Gee, whatever happened to her husband and son? Patience deserves to hear that story before she makes her decision.

Yes, the supernatural world is the real world on this show. Yes, once you become aware of it, you see it everywhere. Even worse, it becomes aware of you. But step into the shadows, engage too closely, and your projected lifespan drops like a stone.

Dean’s not wrong (neither is James, really). It’s just very hard to get away from the supernatural world once you get plunged into it.


Then there’s Sam’s “training” of Jack. Points, at least, for the show having Sam remember that he used to be psychic, too … sort of. Sam talks about being different when he was younger and worrying about having a “darkness” inside him, that Dean and Castiel helped him fight it, so there’s that. But then Sam proceeds (as he always has) to make it All About Sam and try to push Jack into learning more about his powers, even though it’s really obvious that Jack is afraid to use them.

Now, Jack does mention Dean saying he’s evil, but he also brings up the reasons why Dean feels that way and agrees with them. He did kill his mother by being born. He has hurt people. He has lost control of his powers. He even mentions feeling Asmodeus in his mind, pushing him and coopting his powers, during his attempt to raise the Shedim the previous episode. But what Sam mostly latches onto (as he very belatedly decides to stop pushing Jack) is that Jack is afraid of Dean (despite being physically invulnerable), not that Sam is doing pretty much the same thing to Jack that Asmodeus did and for equally selfish reasons – and that this bothers Jack a whole lot.


When Dean gets back, the hints throughout the episode that all is not well with him (such as Jody holding him back when he starts to ream James out for lying to Patience) come to a head. Sam calls Dean on being so harsh to Jack and threatening him (even though Dean’s been very upfront about that, so it should hardly be a surprise to Sam).

To the writers’ credit, they do have Dean finally calling Sam out right back on Sam’s less-than-altruistic motives for getting Jack to learn how to control his powers, saying that Sam doesn’t really care about Jack. He just wants to use Jack’s powers to get Mary back, using Jack as “an interdimensional can opener.” And there isn’t a whole in this episode that contradicts Dean on that point.

Dean would never come out and say this, but Sam’s example of himself as a person Dean saved in spite of Sam’s being a “freak” is also a poor one – Sam hurt a lot of people because Dean didn’t kill him. Not that the angels and demons would have allowed Sam to stay dead, but still.

In the end, Dean can’t hold back. His barely leashed pain and rage pour out as he yells that he “can’t even look at the kid” because he blames Jack directly for losing Mary and Castiel.

Unfortunately, he does that as Jack is listening nearby (which seems uncharacteristically dumb). This accidentally sparks Jack’s powers as Jack spontaneously tries to do something “good” and also reaches out to his foster daddy, Castiel. In the process, Castiel wakes up someplace dark and weird.

But that’s for next time.


Next: The Big Empty: While trying to figure out who is killing a grief counselor’s patients, the Brothers and Jack end up in family therapy. Meanwhile, Castiel wakes up somewhere dark and strange.

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16 thoughts on “Review: Supernatural: “Patience” (13.03)”

  1. Again, let me state my preference: that Sam and Dean save ‘themselves’ and not the girls. PLEASE do not have the little 90lb girls save them. Maybe Kaia opening up “The Bad Place” for Jack to pluck them out, OK. But no.

    Hey, is Claire supposed to be over 21yo? Can she and Dean go out for a bender?

    I still do not know what James (Patience Papa, right? I don’t want to go look up his name again) WANTS out of all this. He is so mild and then when he pulls his hard-ass routine it just does not compute. The boy’s parents in Swap Meet had ‘a plan’ and so did Mrs Tran. Out of all these ‘parents’ I like Karen Tran the best. Bring her back and give her a KEVIN to raise.

      1. I certainly hope so. Dean standing over Godzilla with a spear, doing a Tarzan yell? I want that in my fiction-watching life.

    1. I think most (if not all) of the fandom is on board with the preference that Sam and Dean save themselves next week. The main thing seems to be that the girls will find them, but from the pattern of previous WS episodes, the Brothers will still be largely saving themselves. Look at the pattern for “Patience,” where, yeah, Patience has a vision and saves everybody, but that’s still mainly a tool for Dean to save the day by killing the MOTW. Also, Kaia was a repeated DiD in her ep, albeit a grumpy and ungrateful one.

      The trick is to establish a central conflict and mission for the WS team that doesn’t step on the toes of the central conflict and mission for the original show, because currently, all the sympathy for any audience likely to show up is with the original show. Claire saying she’s going to go help the Brothers because they saved her in the past is not actually a bad central conflict, but it depends on how they do it.

      Claire isn’t quite 21 yet. Also, Dean seems like one of those alcoholics who would feel uncomfortable with encouraging a younger person they were mentoring farther down that road (Bobby, alas, was perfectly fine with enabling alcohol abuse). He already feels really uneasy about the way Claire idolizes him and his “twisted” approach to Hunting.

      I agree that James doesn’t make a whole lot of sense right now. I think that was a side effect of ignoring what a terrible person his mother actually kinda was. But I would love see Mama Tran again. I’m hoping that’s what bringing in alt-Kevin is about.

      1. I will throw a PARTY for myself if they bring back Linda Tran. They had another actress play her when we first met Kevin, but when she showed up in Season 8 she was SO COOL. I was surprised they did not move her ‘and’ Kevin to the Bunker in Season 8. They would’ve been safe, she could’ve taken care of her son. Stupid that they left him in that Garth-boat for half the season.

  2. I get what Snow is saying about Patience and Kaia. Because of the powers they are not written as typical pip characters who are saved by the brothers per Claire and Alice. Patience and Kaia are introduced as powerful beings forced by circumstances to accept their powers to save others. Their introduction episodes function as superhero origin stories which force the brothers to be diminished or incapacitated in order for the girls to be the special savior.
    It’s the wrong trope for this show and relies on old writing for the brothers and bad comic writing for the girls. They would have been better off keeping the girls’introduction to pip stories with a hint of powers that are helpful but do not supersedethe brothers skills. Then show their powers and control over them grow in a series of episodes. Jack is getting the arcs that both Patience and Kaiashould get if they were serious about the characters.
    It bodes poorly for the WS show. At least Claire is leading the charge to save Dean and Sam. She has earned it
    I saw Missouri’s treatment of Dean in this episode as giving him what he needed. She was a tough love mother. Dean doesn’t need to be babied or coddled like Sam.
    I agree. Not as bad as last week’s but still meh and riddled with lol canon.
    Would have made more sense for Asmodeus to be forcing psychics to find Jack or using them in spellsor something.

    1. I thought Missouri would have been a more interesting character if the show hadn’t tried to write her character arc as a hagiography. She had some major flaws. James didn’t just happen to cut off contact with her. And I don’t even know what was supposed to be going on between her and Dean.

      I think Patience and Kaia are supposed to be the Sam version of the story, with powers they can’t control and taking different positions on how to deal with them. Similarly, Claire and Alex had Dean’s type of intro to the supernatural, but responded in opposite ways.

      The thing is that when we meet Sam in the Pilot, he hasn’t shown any powers yet. And they are never portrayed later as a positive thing. Even so, I don’t think the obsessive focus on Sam’s psychic Gary Stu-ness did him any favors in the characterization department, hence why I’m a bit concerned about Patience and Kaia.

      1. Exactly. Sam and Jack grow as characters before they use their powers to push the plot and/or save the day.
        They weren’t introduced as hey look what I can do.
        You know what… even Flash and Arrow gave their superheroes episodes worth of backstory and growth to support these powers.
        Very bad writing
        Meh. Alex is Sam adjacent. She chose to run away to college.
        I really think Dabb is very badly going for superhero stuff just like he very very badly copied the vampire diaries… without vampires of course.

        1. Dabb has comic book roots. Unfortunately, they tend to show up at the oddest, shallowest and most uncomfortable of times.

          In all fairness, though, while Ben Edlund was probably their best writer in terms of skill and storytelling, he could also be a raging misogynist and homophobe.

        2. I am pretty sure Alex lives with Jody and goes to community college nearby for nursing. I think she wanted to keep Jody company after Claire left too.

          I am curious how they will put Donna in with the group. She is ‘also’ a sheriff so they can’t both be sheriff of the same county, you know?

  3. When you say that, Patience was not a victim of the Supernatural world the way Jody, Donna, Claire and Alex were, I’m not sure I agree with you. The wraith did come after her, and it also killed her grandmother. While she only witnessed that through vision, and wasn’t especially close to Missouri due to her father’s decision to cut Missouri out, Patience appeared to care about her grandmother. This is just as much direct injury as Donna had, who was affected by the supernatural, but has really only lost a colleague as opposed to close family.

    The thing about Patience is that the psychic thing really takes over who she is as a person. By the end of the first episode involving Donna, I was beginning to get an idea of her background and personality and subsequent episodes built on this to make her into an interesting and well rounded character. Patience had been in two episodes now. Other than a bit of family background, all I know about her is that she is a sweet kid with a certain amount of innate courage and good grades, who is PSYCHIC. That really drowns out a lot that could be more interesting.

    I liked Jody in this episode until that last conversation with Patience. It seemed out of character. On the one hand, you could argue that Jody, as a mother, was encouraging Patience to “be herself.” But hunting is dangerous. My experience both with mothers and as a mother, is that our first priority is about keeping the kids safe, and we are happy to let the “being yourself” part work itself out over time. That’s why wanting Claire to enroll in college first made sense. It’s just that Claire is a bit of a force of nature and Jody knows she can’t stop her.

    Instead, Jody is positively encouraging Patience to join the hunt if she wants.
    Jody comes across as thinking that hunting is “cool” and “exciting”, which seems much more in character for season two Jo. And look how Ellen felt about that. I’m sure the writers could have thought of a more logical pretext for Jody to share her contact information.

    By the way, I wanted to tell you how much I enjoyed your story, “Light a Candle, Curse the Darkness.” I could FEEL that creepy old cellar.

    1. “The thing about Patience is that the psychic thing really takes over who she is as a person.” This is what I mean. Sure, she’s a victim of the supernatural world, as is Kaia. But in both cases, the supernatural world “notices” them because they have supernatural powers. Otherwise, it’s implied, they would have led ordinary (or, at least, non-supernaturally flavored) lives. In the process, their encounter puts the emphasis on their shiny powers and makes that the most important thing about them.

      That’s probably why Patience is so bland. There’s actually something more personal buried in there about how she wants to become a Hero and is a bit of a science geek (as well as at least semi-athletic). But it’s smothered by all the talk about her super-speshul psychic stuff. The other WS crew were introduced via their contact with the supernatural world, which highlighted their personalities and character. Patience and Kaia were introduced via their introduction to their powers, which highlighted the powers, not their personalities or how they interacted with the supernatural world.

      I’ll give the writers this much – at least Patience wasn’t an ethnic cliche like her grandmother or Kaia.

      I agree about Jody. Early on, I liked how she obviously noticed Dean wasn’t okay, how she gently held him back when he was about to go off on James on Patience’s behalf, and how she complimented him on his kill after the Hunt.

      But the ending…ugh. Hunting is not a career. It’s a highly dangerous and morally corrosive lifestyle with no happy ending. What Jody did is like telling your kid that joining the Hell’s Angels is a great idea just because she’s discovered a love for motorcycles. To encourage a young woman to get into Hunting so early, when she still has a home and a family, is so irresponsible.

      I’m not quite sure where the writers are going with this. After the guy who murdered Krissy’s dad to get his little replacement family of perfect teenage Hunters, we (and Dean) know how ugly this approach can get. Are we supposed to believe that Jody is being any different or can we expect Dean to call her out on it down the road?

      Now, mind you, I have no problem with the writers going down a road that dark with Jody, but own it and use it. Don’t ignore it and suddenly pretend Hunting is something it’s not. That’s the mistake Robbie Thompson made with Charlie and Adam Glass made with Krissy. The rules of the game don’t change and soften just because you’ve got a cute and likable young woman for the protag. That’s why Jo and Ellen’s deaths worked and left such an impression.

      Glad you enjoyed “Light a Candle, Curse the Darkness”! I got the original idea from a really nasty nightmare I had a while back. Originally, it was an attic, but I combined it with a story concept I first came up with back in the 80s when I was working on an ambulance squad. There’s actually a moment in there that really happened, but I’m not telling which one.

      At the time, I couldn’t really tell if it was scary or not, but when I read it to a few people, their reactions indicated it was. Now when I reread it, I can see the concept is pretty unnerving, overall. I’m writing something kind of similar for another anthology now.

      1. I put the anthoology in my amazon cart…

        The Jody monologue was set-up for Wayward Sisters. Nothing more. They don’t think about character history, character development, character arcs.

        Without Kim Manners and Jensen this show would not have lasted. The only person anywhere near Manners’ level of artistry was Carved.

        This current bunch thinks they are writing cheap comic books. They kind where nothing sticks, potholes are easily solved by bad writing, and there isn’t a lot of thought put info any aspect. They just write what sounds cool.
        And they probably a5te using some long-range planning that Carved left behind for scaffolding long term arcs. I say this because there has been an extraordinary consistency in Dean’s characterization and issues . They are clearly building on Carver’s four years. They also finished the process of shifting the brothers storyline riles.
        Sam is now the resolutely human brother, the caretaker, and the brother without connection to the mytharc.
        Dean is the mytharc character. Mary has absorbed many of the old Sam tropes and replaced Sam as Dean’s obsession.
        They are continuing this arc go directly from Carver. Dean will do one of his reckless sacrifices in a fit of angst, desperation, Depression and self-loathing …
        and it will be much bigger and darker than the Moc in every way eay. Kidnapping Kaia at gunpoint is a clear signal for this even if you don’t buy the idea that there has been a progressive storyline for Dean.
        Imo the AU APOCALYPSE, or it’s a wonderful life Dean Winchester, is the perfect way to show Dean that he matters and how much he matters.
        It also means Michael a Michael action.

        1. Thanks! It’s a good anthology.

          I get why the Jody monologue was there. I just think it’s unfortunate that it was so out-of-character for *her* and disrespectful to her own history, on top of being dismissive of Dean’s point of view (which is, alas, a very accurate assessment of the pitfalls of Hunting).

          1. What I got out of Dean’s ‘advice’ to Patience was consistency. He ‘always’ give that speech, remember in the Clue episode when he threatened to ‘dispatch’ the rich kid who wanted to help them in some way? DO NOT COME AFTER US. Even snippier, much snippier, than his Patience conversation. Matter of fact, I think he tried to talk Claire out of it too, but then gave her a book to get her started. He saw ‘something’ in Claire (recognized that she would never be able to go back to a kid) AND in Charlie. He did try to keep her out in LARP but he also readily accepted her in when she showed up subsequently at the Bunker.

            I am really looking forward to Thursday next BUT I ‘still’ do not want WS to save them, I hope this is all a foolie.

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