Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/16/17


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Supernatural (Thursday nights, 8pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

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The show will return from Christmas hiatus on January 18.

My live recap for episode 13.05 is up. I will be doing the next one at 8pm Friday (tomorrow) night, EST.

Apologies for getting behind on my reviews. I have been busy getting two books ready for publication before Christmas, a cookbook my mom created years ago of recipes from various members of our family and the long-promised collection of Supernatural: Season One reviews. Both will come out in Kindle and print. I’m shooting for the end of Thanksgiving weekend on the Kindle version. For Supernatural, I have a few possible covers. Please feel free to comment on which one you like best or how they could be improved:

SN Cover C2 SN Cover B3 SN Cover A3

Season 13 titles so far: “Lost and Found” (13.01), synopsis and photos, promo, preview, sneak peeks, and Shaving People, Punting Things, as well as live recap and review; “The Rising Son” (13.02) synopsis and photos and promo; “Patience” (the first spinoff set-up episode) (13.03) synopsis; “The Big Empty” (13.04) synopsis, promo and official photos; “Advanced Thanatology” (13.05) synopsis, photos and promo; “Tombstone” (13.06) synopsis, promo and photos; “War of the Worlds” (13.07) synopsis; “The Scorpion and the Frog” (13.08) synopsis; “The Bad Place” (13.09) (airs December 7) synopsis; Christmas Break; “Wayward Sisters” (13.10, backdoor pilot for the spin-off, airs January 18); “Various & Sundry Villains” (13.11) (previously called “The Midnight Train” and originally, the title was “Stakes on a Train,” though there also appears to have been a switch of episodes between 13.11 and 13.12) ; “Breakdown” (13.12); “Devil’s Bargain” (13.13); “Only the Best Intentions” (13.14); “A Most Holy Man” (13.15); “ScoobyNatural” (13.16, cartoon episode, appears in March), “The Thing” (13.17); “Bring ’em Back Alive” (13.18).

The synopsis for “The Scorpion and the Frog” (13.08) is up:

“The Scorpion and the Frog” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

THE BIG HEIST – Feeling as if they are running out of options, Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) agree to steal a mysterious trunk belonging to a demon named Barthamus (guest star David Cubitt), in exchange for a locater spell the Winchesters can use to track down Jack. Robert Singer directed the episode written by Meredith Glynn (#1308). Original airdate 11/30/2017.

The synopsis for “The Bad Place” (13.09) is up:

“The Bad Place” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

JACK AND KAIA DISRUPT THE WORLD – Jack (Alexander Calvert), desperate to prove to Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) that he is good and that he can control his powers, enlists the help of a dreamcatcher named Kaia (guest star Yadira Guevara-Prip) to help him find Mary Winchester (guest star Samantha Smith) and save her from the alternate universe. However, when plans go awry, the Winchester brothers are the ones who need saving. Phil Sgriccia directed the episode written by Robert Berens (#1309). Original airdate 12/7/2017.

This is the last episode of 2017 (i.e., before the Christmas break) and introduces the final main character in the spin-off, Kaia.

Photos and a promo are up for this week’s “Tombstone” (13.06).

Misha Collins gave a brief interview about Castiel’s reunion with Jack this week. He spoke more at length about it with TV Line and also gave a somewhat longer interview with EW.

Warner Bros has announced details about the upcoming Wayward Sisters spin-off. As we already know, it will star Kim Rhodes (Jody Mills) and the rumor that Briana Buckmaster (Donna Hanscum) is in it was confirmed. Also starring will be Kathryn Newton (Claire Novak) and Alex Jones (Katherine Ramdeen), as well as new character Patience Turner (played by Clark Backo). Another new character, Kaia (Yadira Guevar-Prip), has been added to the main cast list (she first appears in 13.09). Kaia’s “gift” will be the ability to spirit travel.

The spin-off premise and new characters will be introduced via several episodes in season 13. Patience was introduced in “Patience” (13.03), which also brings back season one character Missouri Moseley (who is Patience’s estranged grandmother and from whom Patience has inherited her psychic gift). The actual backdoor pilot will be “Wayward Sisters” (13.10).

Star Kim Rhodes told EW that there’s a good in-SPNverse reason why the show will be set in a single location (Sioux Falls) instead of moving around. Rhymes with “Hellmouth,” I’ll bet.

Season 12 is out on Amazon.

The count for Supernatural calendars for 2018 is now four: a charity calendar called If I Could Tell You: The Women of Supernatural that just ended its campaign, two large calendars out on July 1 and two mini calendars on September 1.

The show stayed at second place on the network again last week with a 0.6/2 (rounded up from a 0.596 and half-hours of 0.601, 0.590) and dipping slightly in audience to 1.71 million. This once again put it firmly in second place, though Supergirl got a somewhat higher audience.

So far this season (up through episode 13.03, Live+3), Supernatural has only cracked the top 25 DVR ratings twice. For the season premiere, it rose from a 0.7 to 1.0 in the Live+3 A18-49 demo and from 2.107 million to 2.819 million in Live+3 audience. For 13.03 (“Patience”), it rose from a 0.6 to a 1.1 in the Live+7 A18-49 demo. This is good news for the spin-off, indicating people continued to sample the episode over the week after its live debut.


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12 thoughts on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/16/17”

  1. Hi Paula,

    I like the middle cover best, less complicated and easier to see. Though they are all good. I am really looking forward to the book, so glad you are going to put all those amazing reviews of yours in book form!

  2. My internet is really crummy. I am ‘rated’ for 1.5MB only. And boy it sucks on the weekend because everybody is home. I will try to watch tonight as late as I can stay up. I want to see everybody ‘hug it out.’

  3. It’s 1:30am and the ABQ CW is still down, Boy, this is frustrating. I was hoping there would be some announcement when the show would rerun.

    Now I will have to wait for the Christmas hiatus/rerun episodes. I mean, I will ‘get’ it (I hope).

    1. You’re welcome. It’s happened to me a few times. Was not a happy camper when it did. It usually had something to do with thunderstorms.

  4. Arrow is also not showing. So Albuquerque which I believe is a top-30 market will not be part of the ratings! Wow, that sucks.

    There is just a black screen saying, we know we are down, don’t call.

  5. I can’t believe it! My CW channel is down. FIRST time I ever missed an episode. I do not believe this. I have crappy internet but can anybody tell me where I can get the episode for free (I don’t belong to any services because of my crummy internet). I will watch at 2am if necessary. I wanted to see Castiel back with Dean and Sam and Jack.

    THIS pisses me off.

    I’ll lay off with the complaining.

    Paula, please go extra-special in-depth tomorrow. I am working up to livid.

    1. It goes up on the CW app/site pretty early tomorrow morning. Might be as early as 2am your time, but not sure. That’s how I’ve been watching it.

      Sorry to hear about your mishap. I agree it’s super-annoying when that happens.

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