Supernatural -- "Advanced Thanatology" -- Image Number: SN1305b_0081b.jpg -- Pictured: Jared Padalecki as Sam -- Photo: Katie Yu/The CW -- © 2017 The CW Network, LLC All Rights Reserved.

Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/09/17


We need your help!

Contribute monthly via Patreon (which includes perks), make a one-time donation through Paypal, or buy us a coffee.

Paula’s latest Patreon entry was about Canada Day and horror westerns.

Heather will be on hiatus for a bit. We’ll let you know when she comes back.

You can access previous spoilers columns at Innsmouth Free Press here.


Supernatural (Thursday nights, 8pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

Check out my Patreon page. Help me keep this column going, pay Heather, and start doing Supernatural reviews again.

My live recap for episode 13.04 is up. I will be doing the next one at 8pm Friday (tomorrow) night, EST.

Season 13 titles so far: “Lost and Found” (13.01), synopsis and photos, promo, preview, sneak peeks, and Shaving People, Punting Things, as well as live recap and review; “The Rising Son” (13.02) synopsis and photos and promo; “Patience” (the first spinoff set-up episode) (13.03) synopsis; “The Big Empty” (13.04) synopsis, promo and official photos; “Advanced Thanatology” (13.05) synopsis, photos and promo; “Tombstone” (13.06) synopsis; “War of the Worlds” (13.07) synopsis; “The Scorpion and the Frog” (13.08); “The Bad Place” (13.09) (probably December 7); Christmas Break; “Wayward Sisters” (13.10, backdoor pilot for the spinoff); “Various & Sundry Villains” (13.11) (previously called “The Midnight Train” and originally, the title was “Stakes on a Train,” though there also appears to have been a switch of episodes between 13.11 and 13.12) ; “Breakdown” (13.12); “Devil’s Bargain” (13.13); “Only the Best Intentions” (13.14); “A Most Holy Man” (13.15); “ScoobyNatural” (13.16, cartoon episode, appears in March), “The Thing” (13.17); “Bring ’em Back Alive” (13.18).

The synopsis for “War of the Worlds” (13.07) is up:

“War of the Worlds” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (Content Rating TBD) (HDTV)

THE RACE IS ON TO FIND JACK – As Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) continue their search for Jack (Alexander Calvert), with Asmodeus (guest star Jeffrey Vincent Parise) hot on their trail, they stumble across a familiar foe. Meanwhile, Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) manages to escape Michael’s (guest star Christian Keyes) grasp and finds himself an unlikely and mostly unwilling ally. The episode directed by Richard Speight, Jr. was written by Brad Buckner and Eugenie Ross-Leming (#1307). Original airdate 11/23/2017.

Much as I like RSJ, this is another Nepotism Duo special, so it’s pretty much guaranteed to be dull and almost certainly terrible. The synopsis certainly sounds busy enough, which means talktalktalk to avoid busting the budget. I guess that explains why it’s airing Thanksgiving Day. No, I am not kidding.

Episode titles for 13.15, 13.17 and 13.18 are now up.

Photos and a promo are up for this week’s “Advanced Thanatology” (13.05).

Show creator Eric Kripke has signed on to do a new series, this time with Amazon, called The Boys.

The “Wayward Sisters” backdoor pilot completed filming yesterday.

Warner Bros has announced details about the upcoming Wayward Sisters spin-off. As we already know, it will star Kim Rhodes (Jody Mills) and the rumor that Briana Buckmaster (Donna Hanscum) is in it was confirmed. Also starring will be Kathryn Newton (Claire Novak) and Alex Jones (Katherine Ramdeen), as well as new character Patience Turner (played by Clark Backo). Another new character, Kaia (Yadira Guevar-Prip), has been added to the main cast list. Kaia’s “gift” will be the ability to spirit travel.

The spin-off premise and new characters will be introduced via several episodes in season 13. Patience will be introduced in “Patience” (13.03), which also brings back season one character Missouri Moseley (who is Patience’s estranged grandmother and from whom Patience has inherited her psychic gift). The actual backdoor pilot will be “Wayward Sisters” (13.10).

Season 12 is out on Amazon.

The count for Supernatural calendars for 2018 is now four: a charity calendar called If I Could Tell You: The Women of Supernatural, taking orders now (for one more day), two large calendars out on July 1 and two mini calendars on September 1.

The show stayed at second place on the network again last week staying at 0.6/2 and dipping slightly in audience to 1.82 million. Again, while Riverdale got the same rounded demo, it only pulled an unrounded 0.567 to Supernatural‘s 0.631 (0.628 in the first half-hour up to 0.633 in the second) in the overnights, and dipped to 1.51 million in audience in the finals.

More significantly, though Supernatural does tend to bounce around a little, Riverdale dropped, while Supernatural went up a bit in demo. The network has been promoting Riverdale heavily since this past summer and it appeared to work, at least for a while. But it seems that the show can’t hold its audience. Should be interesting to see where it ends up next spring, considering how low it dropped last spring.

Supernatural, meanwhile, remains safe as houses.


Like this column? You can help keep it going by contributing monthly via Patreon (which includes perks), making a one-time donation through Paypal, or buying us a coffee.


16 thoughts on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/09/17”

  1. Is there any way you can get the +3 and +7 ratings? I am very curious how the CW line-up would end up with the dvr’d/watched ratings included.

    What I am surprised about is that Arrow has no legs this year. I bet the ratings would stay roughly the same if they switched!

    1. The delayed ratings take a little while to come in. In the most recent one I saw, only The Flash appeared in the top 25.

      I’m not terribly surprised about Arrow. That’s how watercooler shows, especially CW watercooler shows, work. TVD had the same trend and The Flash (assuming it doesn’t drop sooner) will, too. They burn bright and hot, and then they start to fade hard just as cast contracts come up for renewal.

  2. Does anybody know who played Evan’s mom? I liked her golly I ‘felt’ her grief.

    I ‘think’ she was previously Elizabeth, Benny’s great-granddaughter and the mom with the creepy daughter in The Kids are All Right. I just checked IMBD.com and they only had Sam and Dean, Evan and Shawn, and the Ghost. CASTIEL did not appear in the credits!

  3. I rewound it and could not find her.

    I just figured out I ‘think’ she is Alison Down, who played Alice Cassity in Trial and Error. Her hair was different but her voice was the same.

    BOY I felt that woman’s grief about her son. She was given good lines and good direction. She ‘tried’ so hard. I probably would’ve been sleeping in a chair next to his bed if MY kid had gone thru that but within the show, she may have wanted to give him some privacy. GOOD performance.

  4. The actress has/had a part on 12 Monkeys. When I closed my eyes, listened to her voice, I remembered her from Trial and Error and put ‘that’ one up and found her name, hit it, found she ‘was’ on SPN as Alice Cassity and last night and I was all WHOMP THERE IT IS, WHOMP THERE IT IS.

    Today I was watching Red Meat and realized the ER doctor that I liked in ‘that’ episode played the young warlock’s (?) mother in Swap Meet.

    I love that about this show.

    1. CC, hon, you need to include some text with links because I almost marked this spam before I saw who it was from.

      Also, yes, I saw that, but he’s not related to SPN, so….

      1. Sorry.
        I thought some folks still watched the superhero shows and he was part of the Berlanti team that produces them all.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *