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Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/02/17


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My live recap for episode 13.03 is up. I will be doing the next a bit late again on Friday night.

Season 13 titles so far: “Lost and Found” (13.01), synopsis and photos, promo, preview, sneak peeks, and Shaving People, Punting Things, as well as live recap and review; “The Rising Son” (13.02) synopsis and photos and promo; “Patience” (the first spinoff set-up episode) (13.03) synopsis; “The Big Empty” (13.04) synopsis, promo and official photos; “Advanced Thanatology” (13.05) synopsis; “Tombstone” (13.06) synopsis; “War of the Worlds” (13.07); “The Scorpion and the Frog” (13.08); “The Bad Place” (13.09) (probably December 7); Christmas Break; “Wayward Sisters” (13.10, backdoor pilot for the spinoff); “The Midnight Train” (13.11); “Various and Sundry Villains” (13.12); “Breakdown” (13.13); “Devil’s Bargain” (13.14); “Only the Best Intentions” (13.15); “ScoobyNatural” (13.16, cartoon episode, appears in March).

The synopsis for “Tombstone” (13.06) is up:

“Tombstone” – (8:00-9:00 p.m. ET) (TV-14, LV) (HDTV)

GO AHEAD … MAKE MY DAY – Castiel (Misha Collins) is reunited with Jack (Alexander Calvert) and together with Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles), they head to a sleepy old western town to investigate a murder. Dean gets to live out his boyhood fantasy when he comes face to face with a famous, gun-slinging outlaw. Nina Lopez-Corrado directed the episode written by Davy Perez (#1306). Original airdate 11/16/2017.

Photos and a promo are up for “The Big Empty” (13.04).

Warner Bros has announced details about the upcoming Wayward Sisters spin-off. As we already know, it will star Kim Rhodes (Jody Mills) and the rumor that Briana Buckmaster (Donna Hanscum) is in it was confirmed. Also starring will be Kathryn Newton (Claire Novak) and Alex Jones (Katherine Ramdeen), as well as new character Patience Turner (played by Clark Backo). Another new character, Kaia (Yadira Guevar-Prip), has been added to the main cast list. Kaia’s “gift” will be the ability to spirit travel.

The spin-off premise and new characters will be introduced via several episodes in season 13. Patience will be introduced in “Patience” (13.03), which also brings back season one character Missouri Moseley (who is Patience’s estranged grandmother and from whom Patience has inherited her psychic gift). The actual backdoor pilot will be “Wayward Sisters” (13.10).

Season 12 is out on Amazon.

The count for Supernatural calendars for 2018 is now four: a charity calendar called If I Could Tell You: The Women of Supernatural, taking orders now, two large calendars out on July 1 and two mini calendars on September 1.

The show stayed at second place on the network last week by dipping to a 0.6/2 and going up slightly in audience to 1.93 million. While Riverdale got the same rounded demo, it only pulled a 0.602 to Supernatural‘s 0.609 (0.625 in the first half-hour to 0.593 in the second) and only clocked 1.62 million in audience, which is nothing to crow about.

The half-hours for Supernatural dipped from 0.6/3 and 1.98 million to 0.6/2 and 1.87 million. Considering this was the first preview of the backdoor pilot, that’s not too bad.

In Twitter activity, the show came in second for the night, behind the Latin American Music Awards.


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6 thoughts on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 11/02/17”

  1. Didn’t Dean get to live out his ‘fantasy’ in Frontierland? (I’m a posse magnet.) Actual gunfight in the town center.

    I wonder if they’ll use the same set (with the tall wooden windmill) shot from a different angle that they used for All Hell Breaks Loose ONE and Frontierland? I think that set was also used for Lonesome Dove The Series.

    I think that Dean is somehow going to save Jack from drunks in a bar. I think it will be a CBGB situation and Dean will go medieval on some jerkazoids ass. JUST a thought.

    Do you think Dean’s oracular pronouncements which have that certain gravitas (every once in a while) like when he told Zach he would stab him in the throat or when he said he was going after Hitler in Time after Time after Time? (I don’t even remember where Dean told Zach he would stab him in a throat.)

    1. I was wondering that myself: “Gee, this sounds just like ‘Frontierland.'”

      Not sure about the old Bordertown set. It’s apparently a bit far out, albeit still in the Greater Vancouver area, which makes production somewhat more expensive there. On the other hand, pretty sure Legends of Tomorrow used it last season, so maybe the CW has a deal going with the owners.

      Lonesome Dove: The Series was filmed in Alberta (also a popular location for filming westerns), so nope, not the same set.

      The show pretty obviously wants Dean and Jack to bond. Being volcanically pissed, Dean is actually more emotionally open to Jack, I think, than Sam, especially if Jack manages to bring Castiel back. Not really into it because still not feelin’ Jack as a character and don’t think he’ll last, but whatever.

      Dean told Zachariah at the end of “It’s a Terrible Life” in season four, “Angel or not, I will stab you in the face.” As for Dean’s predictions, they tend to come true, even when he later regrets them and even if he doesn’t do it himself.

  2. We are watching “Brother’s Keeper” and my husband said suddenly “Sam is a whining rationalizing shit” while Dean is saying he has to get locked in The Empty. I said, what brought THAT up. He said YEARS of whiny rationalizing shit.

  3. Is it a big no-no to say that I just saw on spoilertv.com that Castiel appears in Episode 5 (ie. THURSDAY)?

    I say let’s have joyful Dean for a while; Jensen is doing such a good job in his angst I would love to see him switch from sorrow to joy before my eyes.

    This week TNT did the end of Season 10; Dean gets the MoC removed. At the moment it happened, moment to moment I could SEE the difference between MoC Dean and regular flavor Dean. I ‘saw’ it. Wonderful physical acting.

    1. Well, it is the spoilers column and we already know he’s back (plus, the synopsis for next week’s episode says so), so it’s okay.

      Dabb thought last season was the Brothers getting everything they ever wanted. Also, he keeps harping on going smaller scale while piling on more and more “epic” lame stuff. So, be careful what you wish for.

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