Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 05/23/17


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Sci-fi Spoilerpalooza
By Heather S. Vina

12 Monkeys: EW has up an interview with executive producer Terry Matalas on season three.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: TV Line has up an interview with co-showrunner Jed Whedon and executive producer Jeffrey Bell on the finale events and season five.

American Horror Story: Actress Leslie Grossman is joining the show in a “comedic role.”

Black Lightning: The first trailer is out for the new superhero show. And according to the creators, it is NOT set in the Arrow universe. Thank goodness.

The Dark Crystal: In surprising news, Netflix has picked up to series a prequel based on the Jim Henson movie of the same name. You can see the trailer on YouTube.

Dark Matter: There’s a a new trailer out for season three.

Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency: Actors John Hannah, Alan Tudyk, Amanda Walsh, and Aleks Paunovic have been announced as guest stars for season two.

Doctor Who: In an interview with Radio Times, Michelle Gomez announced that she will be leaving the show at the end of this season, as well. The BBC YouTube channel has up a video with her. She also did a Reddit Q&A and you can read the answers here. The final ratings are out for the episode “Knock, Knock”: It was watched by 5.73 million viewers, and was the 21st-most-watched program of the week. The official ratings are out for “Thin Ice” as well, with 5.51 million viewers, placing it at 25 for the week. The episode “Oxygen” received an Appreciation Index of 83, with overnight ratings of 3.57 million viewers.

Fear the Walking Dead: TVLine has up an interview with showrunner Dave Erickson about what’s coming up in season three.

The Gifted: The official trailer is out for the show.

Killjoys: Spoiler TV has up the latest promotional photos for the show. There’s also a new teaser trailer out.

Once Upon A Time: TV Line has up some details on the new, rebooted season, and its move to Friday nights in the fall. They also have a breakdown with Adam Horowitz and Eddy Kitsis on the finale. There’s also an interview with Jennifer Morrison on the finale and one with Lana Parrilla on season seven.

Sense 8: The Hollywood Reporter has up an interview with Jamie Clayton about this season and the potential for a season three. Indiewire has up an interview with new cast member Toby Onwumere. And IGN has up some video interviews with cast members.

The Magicians: The show has promoted to regulars actors Trevor Einhorn (Josh) and Brittany Curran (Fen).

Star Trek Discovery: The first trailer is out! EW also has up the first promotional photos of the show.

Over at EW, the latest Spoiler Room has spoilers on shows Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Once Upon a Time, Arrow, Supergirl, 12 Monkeys, and The Flash.


Supernatural (Thursday nights, 8pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

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So, the season finale aired last week and once again, we are in the summer Hellatus. This week restarts the season with a double feature repeat of 12.01 and 12.02.

This fall, the show will remain at 8pm on Thursdays. Its lead-out will be Arrow.

The show appeared (very briefly) in the CW’s fall sizzle video.

For those following the repeats or otherwise trying to catch up, here is the Season 12 line-up (23 episodes): “Keep Calm and Carry On” (12.01) official photos and press release; “Mamma Mia” (12.02) synopsis and photos; “The Foundry” (12.03) synopsis, official photos, sneak peek, and promo; “American Nightmare” (12.04) synopsis, official photos and promo; “The One You’ve Been Waiting For” (12.05) synopsis, promo and set photos; “Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox” (12.06) synopsis, photos and promo; “Rock Never Dies” (12.07) synopsis, photos and promo; “LOTUS” (12.08) synopsis, photos and promo; “First Blood” (12.09) synopsis, photos, promo and sneak peek, as well as an extended promo; “Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets” (12.10) (this is the one with Alicia Witt) synopsis, photos and promo, and sneak peek; “Regarding Dean” (12.11) tech survey card, synopsis, set photo, promo and official photos; “Stuck in the Middle (With You)” (12.12) tech survey card, synopsis, preliminary photo (this one’s directed by Richard Speight Jr.), and official photos and promo; “Family Feud” (12.13) synopsis; “The Raid” (12.14) tech survey card, synopsis, and promo and official photos; “Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell” (12.15) tech survey card, synopsis, official photos and promo; “Ladies Drink Free” (12.16) tech survey card, synopsis, photos, sneak peeks, and promo; “The British Invasion” (12.17) synopsis, photos, mini-doc, promo and tech survey card; “The Memory Remains” (12.18) tech survey card, synopsis, photos, promo, sneak peek, and title; “The Future” (12.19) tech survey card and partial title card, showing the director is Amanda Tapping, and the writers are Robert Berens and Meredith Glynn, and synopsis and promo, sneak peek, and photos; “Twigs & Twine & Tasha Banes” (12.20) tech survey card, showing Richard Speight Jr. returning to direct and synopsis; “There’s Something About Mary” (12.21) synopsis, photos and promo, tech survey card, and directed by John Showalter; and “Who We Are” (12.22) and “All Along the Watchtower” (12.23 – season finale) synopsis, photos and promo, tech survey card, and directed by Robert Singer and written by Andrew Dabb (these last two episodes will air the same night).

So, now the season is over, stuff has been coming out of the Jus in Bello con in Rome. Jensen Ackles may not be directing this year, due to a conflict with opening his new brewery. Which made lots of fans sad.

However, the big news is that Jared Padalecki accidentally leaked that Misha Collins will be in season 13 when he talked about the animated Scooby-Doo episode (which will be 13.16). The episode had previously been announced at the CW Upfronts, which Padalecki and Jensen Ackles had attended for a panel. Padalecki, Collins and Ackles have already done the voicing for it. Collins confirmed that Castiel will be back … in some form.

The announcement about the Scooby-Doo episode was concerning. It came out at a time when a lot of fans were questioning (and are still questioning) the showrunners’ ability to ride herd on the writers and do proper quality control for the season. It didn’t help that the previous “cartoon” episode was written by Andrew Dabb, and was both careless with canon and underwhelming from a visually creative sense. So, definitely withholding judgment on that one.

The general idea this coming season appears to be that the showrunners think cheating with the alternative universe and making death even cheaper than it has been is a fabulous idea (since they’re too incompetent to be creative). This is not going down well at all with the fans. Of course, the writers also teased a lot of old faces returning in the Purgatory storyline between seasons seven, and eight and that didn’t happen at all. Then again, at that time, the new writer-showrunner didn’t suck at his job.

Other highlights included Ackles’ solo panel.

I’ve moved my Official live recaps to this site and simul-recapping at Wayward Friends, with reviews to follow. I’m working on the review for the season finale now.

Ratings for “Who We Are” (12.22) and season finale “All Along the Watchtower” (12.23) rose to 0.6/3 and 1.75 million, and 0.6/2 and 1.65 million respectively, with Spotted Ratings reporting the fractionals at 0.586 and 0.567 respectively. Programming Insider reported that show’s average for the two hours as A18-34 (0.5/3), A18-49 (0.6/2), A18-54 (0.7/2), a Household Share of 1.0/2, and 1.597 million in audience. Half-hours were 1.74/1.75 million and 0.6/3 for “Who We Are” and 1.66/1.65 million and 0.6/3/0.6/2 for “All Along the Watchtower.”

In DVR+7 ratings, the show popped up with an increase from 1.506 to 2.311 million for “Twigs and Twine and Tasha Banes” (12.20), while “The Memory Remains” (12.18) rose 0.5 to 0.9 and from 1.564 to 2.388. Note that these two episodes were MOTWs.

The show’s season finale night also rated #1 for the day in social ratings and #7 for the week.


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13 thoughts on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 05/23/17”

  1. What the heck is going on with the Mark Shepherd ‘death’?

    I was on io9.gizmodo.com and they showed a ‘normal’ (I think) tweet from Jim Michaels saying Good bye, and never say never on Supernatural and Mark responded This is an untrue tweet, there are no plans to bring back Crowley.

    Their spoiler site discussed what the heck was going on, said it read like Shepherd was pissed about something.

    Did you hear anything about on-set problems re Shepherd?

  2. I guess I still don’t know what he did or how he was ‘improper.’ I do gather that he was talking about ‘feelings.’ And I guess he’ll never do ‘that’ again. I gather he is very circumspect.

    All the link kept saying was that he was not drunk he was not drunk. OK. What did he say/do while not being drunk? I gather he was discussing two ladies from You Are Not Alone who were ‘decompressing’ convention goers and doing a good job? I thought he was ‘mad’ about something. So again, I don’t know what he did that might’ve upset people.

    I mean, I know this is all eye-of-the-beholder stuff.

    1. Some people seemed to believe that because he was acting more open and loose, he must have been drunk. Which, naturally, is the perfect way to get an introvert who was just getting relaxed to close right back up again.

    1. I guess you’re talking about this?

      http://jmaclean.tumblr.com/post/161023611700/jensen-ackles-at-jib8

      As far as anything else, I don’t know. I do know that Mark Sheppard has basically said sayonara to the show for good (he also won’t be in any Creation cons after 2017 and wasn’t invited back to Rome next year):

      https://twitter.com/Mark_Sheppard/with_replies

      The way he’s been burning bridges, it sounds as though some serious bad blood has been going down between the cast and the showrunners of late.

        1. I had a look at those links. He’s a hoot. He’s also part of so many Fandom and he always gives stand-out performances. Firefly and BSG reboot immediately come to mind.
          Dabb and Singer are more clueless than I thought if they mistreated him. I foubd5 Dean and Crowley more interesting than Destiel, possibly because the show dud their best to ignore Destiel.

          1. The rumors out of the latest con are that Sheppard said he and Mark Pellegrino had issues with some of their lines in the finale, but Bob Singer wouldn’t let them change any and that led to conflict.

    1. For last week, it was second and third. Not all the season finales are in, yet, but it appears it will come in third and fourth–or second and fourth, based solely on demo–for that.

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