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Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 05/10/17


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Sci-fi Spoilerpalooza
By Heather S. Vina

Sad news for fans of NBC’s Emerald City: The show has been officially cancelled.

Sleepy Hollow has also been cancelled after four seasons.

The 100: TV Line has up an interview with Lindsey Morgan who delves into Raven’s actions last week, and a recap of this week.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D: EW has up an interview with executive producers Jed Whedon, Maurissa Tancharoen, and Jeffrey Bell on what’s next for the team following their escape from Framework.

American Gods: TV Line has up an early preview of the season, with quotes from Bryan Fuller. EW has up an interview with Bryan Fuller, answering questions about the series premiere.

American Horror Story: Ryan Murphy released on his Instagram the first (weird) drawing for the show.

Arrow: TV Line previews the upcoming battle between teams. Producer Wendy Mericle previewed to CBR how Malcolm Merlyn will play into the finale. TV Line has up an interview with Juliana Harkavy about the season finale.

The Defenders: There’s a new official trailer out for the team-up show. Looks entertaining!

Doctor Who: The official ratings are in for the season premiere. The episode received 6.68 million viewers, and was the tenth-highest-rated program of the week.

Last week’s episode, “Smile,” had an Audience Appreciation figure of 83. It also had an overnight viewing audience of 4.25 million viewers. The episode’s final overnight ratings are also out. The show received of 5.98 million viewers, making it the 23rd-most-watched show for the week, and the 8th-most-watched show on BBC One.

The episode “Thin Ice’s” overnights and AI are in: The AI was an 84, with an overnight figure of 3.76 million viewers.

The Flash: TV Line has up an interview with Danielle Panabaker on Killer Frosts’ new look.

Game of Thrones: The show might actually be getting a spinoff. No word yet on which spinoff HBO will end up going with, as there are going to be four made.

Inhumans: EW has up the first promotional photo of the Inhuman family. And it’s not getting great reviews from the fans. They also have up an interview with the new showrunner, Scott Buck, on the same page. There’s also a teaser trailer out for the show.

iZombie: Actress Shenae Grimes (Beverly Hills 90210will guest-star in an upcoming episode.

Once Upon A Time: EW has up an interview with executive producer Edward Kitsis and Adam Horowitz on the season finale and the potential reboot season, if the show is renewed.

Outlander: The show has cast new family member Rollo!

The Runaways: They released the first promotional photo of the Hulu show’s cast. The show has been officially picked up by the online network.

Scream: TV Line has up some details on the rebooted season three for the MTV show. TV Line has up some details on the show’s new characters.

Shadowhunters: The Shadowhunters fansite Basicshadowhuntersstuff.com has up an interview with showrunners Todd Slavkin and Darren Swimmer about the second half of season two.

Star Trek Discovery: TV Line has up the latest casting moves for the (hopefully soon) new show.

Stranger Things: The show has cast Nashville actor Will Chase as Neil Mayfield, the father of a new family in town.

Supergirl: EW talks about the episode where Alex gets kidnapped. Executive producer Andrew Kreisberg gave some tidbits to TV Line about General Zod’s upcoming appearance on the show.

Van Helsing: The show has cast actress Caroline Cave (Dirk Gently’s Holistic Detective Agency) in a recurring role for season two.

Over at EW, the latest Spoiler Room has a spoilers on shows Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., Once Upon a Time, Supernatural, The Leftovers, and Arrow.

At TV Line, the latest Ask Ausiello column has spoilers on shows The Walking Dead, Arrow, The Flash, The Leftovers, Once Upon a Time, and Supernatural.


Supernatural (Thursday nights, 8pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

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At the last minute, the WGA made a deal and averted a strike. The deal has been approved for ratification and, if ratified (very likely), will last for three years.

It’s official! The show has been renewed for a 13th season. This may well be (by a couple of weeks) the earliest renewal Supernatural has ever received.

The show has moved to 8pm. Still on Thursdays.

The season finale is May 18. There will be a double-feature of 12.22 and 12.23 that night, 8-10pm.

The Season 12 line-up (23 episodes) so far: “Keep Calm and Carry On” (12.01) official photos and press release; “Mamma Mia” (12.02) synopsis and photos; “The Foundry” (12.03) synopsis, official photos, sneak peek, and promo; “American Nightmare” (12.04) synopsis, official photos and promo; “The One You’ve Been Waiting For” (12.05) synopsis, promo and set photos; “Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox” (12.06) synopsis, photos and promo; “Rock Never Dies” (12.07) synopsis, photos and promo; “LOTUS” (12.08) synopsis, photos and promo; “First Blood” (12.09) synopsis, photos, promo and sneak peek, as well as an extended promo; “Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets” (12.10) (this is the one with Alicia Witt) synopsis, photos and promo, and sneak peek; “Regarding Dean” (12.11) tech survey card, synopsis, set photo, promo and official photos; “Stuck in the Middle (With You)” (12.12) tech survey card, synopsis, preliminary photo (this one’s directed by Richard Speight Jr.), and official photos and promo; “Family Feud” (12.13) synopsis; “The Raid” (12.14) tech survey card, synopsis, and promo and official photos; “Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell” (12.15) tech survey card, synopsis, official photos and promo; “Ladies Drink Free” (12.16) tech survey card, synopsis, photos, sneak peeks, and promo; “The British Invasion” (12.17) synopsis, photos, mini-doc, promo and tech survey card; “The Memory Remains” (12.18) tech survey card, synopsis, photos, promo, sneak peek, and title; “The Future” (12.19) tech survey card and partial title card, showing the director is Amanda Tapping, and the writers are Robert Berens and Meredith Glynn, and synopsis and promo, sneak peek, and photos; “Twigs & Twine & Tasha Banes” (12.20) tech survey card, showing Richard Speight Jr. returning to direct and synopsis; “There’s Something About Mary” (12.21) synopsis, photos and promo, tech survey card, and directed by John Showalter; and “Who We Are” (12.22) and “All Along the Watchtower” (12.23 – season finale) synopsis, tech survey card, and directed by Robert Singer and written by Andrew Dabb (these last two episodes will air the same night).

Photos and the promo for “There’s Something About Mary” (12.21) are out (we should also get a sneak peek on the same link later today).

The synopsis for “Who We Are” (12.22) is up:

FAMILY – Caught in a dangerous situation, Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) only have each other to rely on. Meanwhile, the fight between the American Hunters and the British Hunters comes to a head. John Showalter directed the episode written by Robert Berens (#1222). Original airdate 5/18/2017.

As is the one for “All Along the Watchtower” (12.23 – season finale):

EPIC SEASON FINALE – Lucifer (Mark Pellegrino) battles Sam (Jared Padalecki), Dean (Jensen Ackles) and Castiel (Misha Collins) for control of his unborn child. Robert Singer directed the episode written by Andrew Dabb (#1223). Original airdate 5/18/2017.

Gotta be honest – these don’t sound very good.

Andrew Dabb gave a brief interview to EW confirming that we’re stuck with the LoL and Lucifer until the season finale. He also talked to TV Line about Ketch in a not-especially-exciting way.

Jeremy Carver’s show Frequency has been cancelled, possibly opening the way for Carver to return to Supernatural. Note that I said “possibly.”

Overseas con season is now in full swing. AHBL8 in Australia was last weekend. Asylum in Britain is coming up.

I’ve moved my Official live recaps to this site and simul-recapping at Wayward Friends, with reviews to follow.

Ratings for “The Future” (12.19) sank to an audience low of 0.5/2 and 1.38 million respectively. Then they rose again with “Twigs and Twine and Tasha Banes” to a 0.5/2 and 1.51 million.


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18 thoughts on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 05/10/17”

  1. I have heard great things about American God’s. Fuller did amazing things with Hannibal. Aside from mining the mytharc for great psychological horror, Hannibal was visually stunning. I was especially gobsmacked over his use of Italian Renaissance art tropes in the first half of season 3. Color, perspective, Tableau, figural stances… so spot on.

    Cancelling Hannibal after 3 seasons was a mistake by NBC who let Grimm grind on for 5. Also they messed up by cancelling Constantine and Dracula after 1 season. Both were heads and tails above the mostly Dabbish (yes it’s now an adjective) Grimm.

    Any news on the Exorcist which was the best television horror I have seen in a long while.

    I also am looking forward to Midnight, Texas. Since it’s not on cable perhaps they can focus on plot and character rather than excessive nudity, orgies and vampire fucking.

    1. Nothing on The Exorcist, yet, though Timeless just got canceled today. iZombie and The Originals are coming back.

      Wasn’t a fan of American Gods the book, so not too wowed about the series. I’m kinda surprised it took so long to get to series, though.

      1. That upsets me about Timeless. I did like the show and it kind of ‘anchored’ Mondays for me.

        Paula, I know the reason it failed was ‘too few watched it/cost too much for the few who watched it’ but can you tell me what ‘you’ think about the reason the show did not catch on.

        The acting was OK, I could followed the plot. I thought Rittenhouse was ‘too’ powerful and Garcia Flynn was so wacky (I mean, he would not wait 30sec before he pulled out a gun to shoot somebody who was just standing there) he was not a character I could pull for.

        But on the whole it was a good hour (in my opinion — I can NOT get behind the Hawaii 50 show or Quantico or Scorpion, just what Dean called ‘procedurals I hate them all’ from Changing Channels — golly these shows just hang on and on and ON) to spend on Mondays.

        1. I only made it through the second (third?) episode, but my best guess? A combination of bland, unlikeable leads (including both the main trio and the villain) with a ridiculous premise that also reduced audience commitment to the storyline longterm. You see, in order for the premise to be realistic, the timeline would have to change every time they came back. So, there goes any commitment to any storylines “back home” in time because they are arbitrarily subject to changes the trio makes during their excursions. It all rests on what those four main characters are doing.

          Legends of Tomorrow dealt with this by throwing itself into the mayhem head-first and concentrating on developing relationships and storylines between the characters on the ship, or with other characters traveling through time/unaffected by the changes. Even then, LoT gets a lot of justified criticism for the utter chaos of its plots. But at least it doesn’t take itself seriously. Timeless was downright humorless, which made its daft premise not even fun.

          I feel that Kripke needs to stay away from “science” plots. He lacks the scientific literacy, attention span and work ethic to research them properly. He also did a terrible job with Abigail and Rufus, turning her into a perky dip and clotheshorse for whatever time period they were in, and him into an Angry Black Man stereotype who was just there to drive Miss Daisy and her boring leading man around time.

      2. Personally, I enjoyed American Gods, the book, though not so much for the actual storyline. About half of it takes place in my stomping grounds, triangulated by the offhand mentions of three towns, two in which I spend a great deal of time. (The third is about an hour south.) And there were things mentioned in passing about the culture which were dead on, to the point that I Googled Neil Gaimon to see how a British author knew so much about this neck of the woods. And the idea of some old European god going into hiding around here and saving some dying town through annual sacrifice. I dunno, weirdly plausible given what I know of local history. So I found those portions at least to be creepy and atmospheric in a surreal way.

        That said, I probably won’t watch the show. Seeing another person’s interpretation of something I can imagine so well might take away the magic.

        1. I have to admit that those parts of the book were my least favorite by far. But I can understand having more fun with them if that’s your own backyard (figuratively speaking) being described. Local folklore is cool.

    2. I really liked Emerald City (I will watch anything that has Vincent D’Onofrio in it) and the art direction and sets were just the best. Great show. I think I will buy the dvd when it comes out.

      I agree there are so many shows that go on (mostly on CBS, you ever notice that?) and on. WHAT was going on with Sleepy Hollow? I tried to watch it for your sake, I did. I actually did not mind bustier because I had not seen the first season so did not know how MUCH she messed up the chemistry of the show. I also love John Noble and just HATED him in his part. So I actually could not get into it (I also HATED that Orlando Jones was ‘tricked’ into selling his soul. At least on SPN a seller ‘knows’ what he is selling.) and found the sister issues dumb. Again, CC, I tried. I swear.

      I am watching American Gods and I am intrigued. I looked up some of the characters on Wikipedia and would be interested in seeing Czernobog or some of the other gods on SPN.

      I probably gave up on Grimm the same time you did. Could not get into Bitsie Tulloch’s character (though I do love her name!) and it all just fell wrong. But I loved Hank and Wu and Rosalie and Monroe and every once in a while Capt Renard took his shirt off (hubba hubba).

      But Juliette’s ‘issues’ ate the show.

          1. I tried Emerald City at the second episode, but got bored and dropped it.

            I really liked The Exorcist, though.

  2. The first season of Sleepy Hollow was great and a huge success so much so that the show was immediately renewed.
    The show running duties changed hands and the really f’d up gold. No respect for great characters which happened to be characters played by persons of color who could act their pants off.
    John Noble did a great job in the first season as a friendly helper character with the stunning finale twist of him being Ichabod’s son and War.
    They actually laid out a fantastic longterm mytharc in the pilot, stopping the Apocalypse, and a great short
    term mytharc in the finale, rescuing Abbie from Purgatory. And they had 3 awesome villains, Headless Horseman, War, And horned devil dude.
    Finally they had a heroic duo whose chemistry and banter rivaled Mulder and Skull you from episode one.

    They wasted two villains, one heroic lead and the amazing partnership by introducing the juvenile and banal Crane Family drama and,reworking the show around that instead of the Apocalypse, as well as tanking the dynamic unconventional female lead
    For a milquetoast lackluster poorly acted damsel in distress.
    Then they tossed out one great supporting character, killed the Apocalyptic devil and replaced another great supporting character with a boring bland white guy.

    So so so so dumb.

  3. The first season of Sleepy Hollow was great and a huge success so much so that the show was immediately renewed.
    The show running duties changed hands and the really f’d up gold. No respect for great characters which happened to be characters played by persons of color who could act their pants off.
    John Noble did a great job in the first season as a friendly helper character with the stunning finale twist of him being Ichabod’s son and War.
    They actually laid out a fantastic longterm mytharc in the pilot, stopping the Apocalypse, and a great short
    term mytharc in the finale, rescuing Abbie from Purgatory. And they had 3 awesome villains, Headless Horseman, War, And horned devil dude.
    Finally they had a heroic duo whose chemistry and banter rivaled Mulder and Skull you from episode one.

    They wasted two villains, one heroic lead and the amazing partnership by introducing the juvenile and banal Crane Family drama and,reworking the show around that instead of the Apocalypse, as well as tanking the dynamic unconventional female lead
    For a milquetoast lackluster poorly acted damsel in distress.
    Then they tossed out one great supporting character, killed the Apocalyptic devil and replaced another great supporting character with a boring bland white guy.

    So so so so dumb.

    1. And they don’t even realize that actually making it a major part of an episode because Eileen is smart and resourceful would be interesting as well as using her deafness creatively. Dumbasses. Huge water of a great character.

    2. WHAT THE FUCK! That is Eileen’s body that Sam looks sad about? How could they do that?

      I agree: show her winning against multiple opponents. Maybe kill her when she gets to the Winchesters (sniper shot) if you feel her death is the right way to go.

      I won’t get the show for an hour.

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