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Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 01/16/17


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Sci-fi Spoilerpalooza
By Heather S. Vina

Great news for several genre shows this week! FX has renewed American Horror Story for two more seasons, while Freeform has renewed Beyond for a second season, and the CW has renewed Arrow, The Flash, Supernatural, Supergirl and Legends of Tomorrow.

In “back from the dead” news, the CW has picked up Constantine as an animated series on the CW Seed. It will be voiced by Matt Ryan.

Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D.: Patton Oswalt is set to reprise his role as twins Sam and Billy Koenig in the January 31st episode.

The 100: There’s a new promo for season four.

Colony: EW has up some spoilers for season two from executive producer Ryan Condal.

The Defenders: EW has an interview up with showrunner Marco Ramirez on balancing the series. They also have up a sneak peek of their cover and issue devoted to the show, as well as a first look at Sigourney Weaver as Alexandra, the villain of the series.

The Librarians: The site io9 has up an interview with Lindy Booth on Cassandra’s recent big episode.

Gotham: The show has cast actor Raymond J. Berry as Shaman, a mysterious figure who enters Bruce’s life to “help him” become the man the city needs him to become. Or so he says.

Legion: EW has up an interview with showrunner Noah Hawley on the potential for crossover.

Lucifer: Spoiler TV has up the official synopsis for episode 13, the winter finale. TV Line has up the first look at Tim Dekay as Dr. Jacob Carlisle.

The Flash: The show is casting Music Meister for the crossover with Supergirl. The character will be the crossover’s “Big Bad.” The show is also seeing the return of Robbie Amell as Ronnie, the Black Flash (speedster Reaper) and GorrillaGrodd.

Once Upon A Time: The show is casting Peter Pan’s Tiger Lily for an upcoming episode. They are also bringing back Rose McIver for a guest appearance as Tinker Bell.

The Originals: Showrunner Michael Narducci is exiting the show. If it’s renewed, Julie Plec will be taking over.

Powerless: Spoiler TV has up the official synopsis for the show’s first episode. The official Twitter account also put up a sneak peek.

Sleepy Hollow: TV Line has up an interview with Tom Mison on the identity of the new Witness.

The Vampire Diaries: EW has up an interview with Paul Wesley and Candice King on how they think the series should end.

The X-Files: Sounds like there might be news of an 11th season coming soon.

Over at E!Online, the latest Spoiler Room has spoilers on shows The Flash, Arrow, Supergirl, The 100, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., and Colony.

At TV Line, Matt’s Inside Line has spoilers on shows Arrow, Timeless, Legends of Tomorrow, Once Upon A Time, Lucifer, Agents of S.H.I.E.L.D., iZombie, and Supergirl/Flash.


Supernatural (Thursday nights, 9pm, CW)
By Paula R. Stiles

It’s official! The show has been renewed for a 13th season. This may well be (by a couple of weeks) the earliest renewal Supernatural has ever received.

The official cast and crew photo for season 12.

The show is moving to 8pm when it comes back next week on Thursday. Repeats are currently in progress. This week’s is “LOTUS” (12.08).

The Season 12 line-up (23 episodes) so far: “Keep Calm and Carry On” (12.01) official photos and press release; “Mamma Mia” (12.02) synopsis and photos; “The Foundry” (12.03) synopsis, official photos, sneak peek, and promo; “American Nightmare” (12.04) synopsis, official photos and promo; “The One You’ve Been Waiting For” (12.05) synopsis, promo and set photos; “Celebrating the Life of Asa Fox” (12.06) synopsis, photos and promo; “Rock Never Dies” (12.07) synopsis, photos and promo; “LOTUS” (12.08) synopsis, photos and promo; “First Blood” (12.09) synopsis, photos and promo, as well as an extended promo; “Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets” (12.10) (this is the one with Alicia Witt) synopsis; “Regarding Dean” (12.11) tech survey card and photo; “Stuck in the Middle (With You) (12.12) tech survey card and photo (this one’s directed by Richard Speight Jr.); “Family Feud” (12.13), “The Raid” (12.14) tech survey card; and “Somewhere Between Heaven and Hell” tech survey card.

The synopsis for “Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets” (12.10) is up:

SUPERNATURAL 12.10 “Lily Sunder Has Some Regrets”: Lily Sunder (guest star Alicia Witt) steeps herself in black magic, honing her powers for over a century, waiting to exact revenge on a band of angels that murdered her family. Sam (Jared Padalecki) and Dean (Jensen Ackles) must work quickly to stop Castiel (Misha Collins) from becoming her next victim. Thomas J. Wright directed the episode written by Steve Yockey

Jensen Ackles and the show have been nominated for the People’s Choice Awards. The ceremony will be this Wednesday, January 18.

Ackles was home for a while longer post-Christmas than the others to be with his family (snarking between him and Jared Padalecki, who was filming on episode 12.14 alone without any of his male co-stars, quickly ensued on Instagram), but is now back on set and … uh … bowling. It doesn’t appear Ackles completely missed filming 12.14, though, since he was back in Vancouver by January 11 and filming for 12.15 began on the 13th.

Ackles, Padalecki and Misha Collins (with help from a cheeky monkey) will guest star on this week’s season finale of Kings of Con, out tonight/tomorrow at midnight on Comic-Con HQ.

There’s a rumor out, thanks to a new tech survey card put up by Jim Michaels, that Jeremy Carver may be returning as showrunner as of 12.15 (here’s the tech survey card for 12.14), which is currently filming as of last Friday. A solo showrunner (since Phil Sgriccia has been exclusively on the production side). Keep in mind this is still just spec based on his being on the title card, and Andrew Dabb not being on the card, while Robert Singer is listed as an Executive Consultant, the usual term for an ex-Executive Producer.

There’s an interview out with Post Production Coordinator Mary Manchin.

For repeat ratings, “Rock Never Dies” (12.08) got a 0.2/1 in demo and 0.79 million in audience. I sense a theme in the generally increasing ratings from the LoL eps through Mary to Lucifer (or at least Sam and Dean in black leather jackets).


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8 thoughts on “Whispers, Spoilers & Speculation Corner: 01/16/17”

  1. I am rereading your Season 4 recap/reviews because first, that is what TNT is showing and second, I find I have forgotten your insights. For instance, Great Pumpkin was on today and I reread your review and forgot all your good disagreements about Samwain (?), that kind of thing.

    ALSO do you think that Carver IS coming back (I gather Frequency is for sure going to be cancelled)? I was on previouslytv.com and they said that Timeless is also probably being cancelled. Timeless used HH Holmes in their plot this week and people were discussing how Serial Killer was not a term anybody used; people ‘did’ discuss that that character had appeared on SPN but nobody mentioned that they had an actual newspaper clipping from Holmes’ trial which called him a ‘multi-murderer’ because nobody had ever had a term for that ‘behavior’ before. Made me proud of SPN; but I wondered why, if Kripke worked on both shows, he didn’t have the Lucy character say that Holmes was called a Multi-Murderer rather than have character after character say Serial Killer to which the people they met replied HUH?

    1. Nothing is guaranteed by any stretch about Carver, but let’s just say it’s highly unusual to see a former EP who has left and been taken off the credits be put back on the credits as an EP and one of the current/returned EPs downgraded to Executive Consultant (the usual title for former EPs), while the other one simply disappears.

      Frequency is not a sure thing for cancellation. It’s doing pretty poorly, but the network hasn’t yet made a decision on it:

      http://deadline.com/2017/01/the-cw-boss-originals-charmed-remake-crazy-ex-girlfriend-1201880844/

      It does have some stuff going against it besides Carver possibly going back to Supernatural. The ratings are really low and it’s not a CBS show. At the moment, the only shows that seem to get pity renewals on the CW are produced by CBS. But the current network statement is that they’re waiting on the streaming ratings (and, I suspect, to see if Riverdale tanks and TO continues to dive-bomb).

      Timeless, last I checked, was a bubble show. Yes, they gave Revolution a chance, but that didn’t work out well, so Kripke won’t necessarily get the same amount of rope this time. As for the serial killer vs. multi-murderer question, Kripke didn’t write “No Exit” and probably didn’t remember that detail (“No Exit” had some issues with the history, anyway). He’s always bragged about not bothering to check his facts.

  2. Paula, I have been reading recap/reviews from the old site and today I got a message that said I was blacklisted.

    Is it that the site has been taken down? Because DAMN I was reading r/r-s for Season 4 and was looking forward to starting season 5 today.

    Now my internet is down so I am at my library on ‘free’ wi-fi, so is that it?

    I will miss innismouth if it is just gone.

    1. Hi Eva. The site is still active and as far as I know, you are not blacklisted. It’s possible that the site was down temporarily, though, or your library blocked it. What message did you get?

  3. It just said you are blacklisted. Made it sound like it was “I” who was blacklisted.

    I will go check again. Right now Season 5 is on TNT and I am finding that I really don’t like as many episodes that I thought I did.

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